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I am beyond mortified.

 

I am in the middle of a very turbulent time in my life, my depression is all over the place .

 

Today I had period pain, I went to Sainsburys to get some medication. The pharmacy was closed.

 

I hovered in the section for ages before I STUPIDLY decided to take the medication off the shelf of the closed pharmacy.

 

I then panicked and left the store.

 

I wasn't stopped, but they would definitely have me on camera taking the medication from the closed pharmacy. I don't know if it is clear I still had it in my possession when I left, but they may also be able to see my car registration.

 

I am freaking out. I want to go back into the store and return the items and profusely apologise for this out of character behaviour, but I also know this could give them a reason to press charges...

 

Someone please give me some advice, I am a wreck.

 

The pills cost about £2.60 if it means anything...

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Next time you are that desperate, dial 101.

 

Stealing won't help

 

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Extremely unlikely that anything will happen. Chances are that they would only look at the CCTV if somebody reported seeing you doing this. Had you been seen at the time then you would have been stopped so please stop worrying. Even IF somebody was to review the CCTV (and they don't just do this for fun, they have to have a reason, it would be impossible to then use CCTV to see you leaving and which vehicle you got into so for all sorts of reasons you have absolutely nothing to worry about

 

That isn't to say that everything is OK, as stealing is never OK, and if it were to happen again, there is every chance that you would get caught and potentially be dealing with a police interview. If this is a one off then please make sure that it stays that way but if you are feeling compelled to do this more often, it is important that you speak to your GP as clearly the issues which are affecting you so badly at present need treatment. In fact make an appointment anyway - you need to get on top of things and start to feel better

 

If you need to make amends, why not put the money in an envelope along with an anonymous note saying that you discovered that you left without paying for whatever item it was. Post it to them or get somebody else to drop it at customer services

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You don't say what kind of medication it is but I would like to suggest two things.

 

First of all, I agree that you will probably feel better if you send the money with a note of apology to the manager of the store. By all means send it anonymously. I'm sure this will make you feel much more comfortable and also if somebody had taken note of you, this would be fantastic evidence of your honesty and your good intent.

 

The second thing I would do is go and see a doctor – not for medication – but to be referred to somebody you can talk to. Everybody has their own view but I convinced that talking therapies are the very best way forward – even though it has to take longer.

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Can I heartily endorse the other views expressed here, especially BankFodders point about talking therapy. It does help if you let it.

 

 

 

An anonymous £2.60 is probably better for you

 

 

 

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Thank you all for your advice.

 

I have written a short anonymous letter of apology and included the money for the item.

 

I have also realised that this is rock bottom for me. I have an appointment with my GP this afternoon and spent a lot of time last night on the phone with a mental health helpline.

 

Thank you again

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Keep a copy of the letter and note the date which you have sent it.

 

Good for you on taking action to get to grips with the deeper stuff.

 

We can't help with that - and we wouldn't want to because we don't have that kind of capability - but if you have any of the kinds of things which we do deal with, such as debt etc - then come to us first.

 

I'm going to close this thread - but you are always welcome to start another on another issue

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