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    • Euro have got a lot wrong and have failed to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  According to Section 13 after ECP have written to Arval they should then send a NTH to the Hirer  which they have done.This eliminates Arval from any further pursuit by ECP. When they wrote to your company they should have sent copies of everything that they asked Arval for. This is to prove that your company agree what happened on the day of the breach. If ECP then comply with the Act they are allowed to pursue the hirer. If they fail, to comply they cannot make the hirer pay. They can pursue until they are blue in the face but the Hirer is not lawfully required to pay them and if it went to Court ECP would lose. Your company could say who was driving but the only person that can be pursued is the Hirer, there does not appear to be an extension for a driver to be pursued. Even if there was, because ECP have failed miserably to comply with the Act  they still have no chance of winning in Court. Here are the relevant Hire sections from the Act below.
    • Thank-you FTMDave for your feedback. May I take this opportunity to say that after reading numerous threads to which you are a contributor, I have great admiration for you. You really do go above and beyond in your efforts to help other people. The time you put in to help, in particular with witness statements is incredible. I am also impressed by the way in which you will defer to others with more experience should there be a particular point that you are not 100% clear on and return with answers or advice that you have sought. I wish I had the ability to help others as you do. There is another forum expert that I must also thank for his time and patience answering my questions and allowing me to come to a “penny drops” moment on one particular issue. I believe he has helped me immensely to understand and to strengthen my own case. I shall not mention who it is here at the moment just in case he would rather I didn't but I greatly appreciate the time he took working through that issue with me. I spent 20+ years of working in an industry that rules and regulations had to be strictly adhered to, indeed, exams had to be taken in order that one had to become qualified in those rules and regulations in order to carry out the duties of the post. In a way, such things as PoFA 2012 are rules and regulations that are not completely alien to me. It has been very enjoyable for me to learn these regulations and the law surrounding them. I wish I had found this forum years ago. I admit that perhaps I had been too keen to express my opinions given that I am still in the learning process. After a suitable period in this industry I became Qualified to teach the rules and regulations and I always said to those I taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. 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I can't log into my account today with my PC, although it still works most of the time with my phone.

 

I keep getting a message about AOL being called Oath now and it says that before I continue it wants me to confirm I'm in the UK and to confirm their new privacy policy.

 

When I try to accept their conditions or manage my options, it says 'Oops something went wrong, please try again later.' Every time I try, I go through the same loop.

 

What am I doing wrong please? Thank you for any help.

 

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I can't log into my account today with my PC, although it still works most of the time with my phone.

 

I keep getting a message about AOL being called Oath now and it says that before I continue it wants me to confirm I'm in the UK and to confirm their new privacy policy.

 

When I try to accept their conditions or manage my options, it says 'Oops something went wrong, please try again later.' Every time I try, I go through the same loop.

 

What am I doing wrong please? Thank you for any help.

 

HB

 

I'm with AOL too HB and the problems I get connecting to them would have driven me to moving to another provider years ago if it wasn't for laziness and the thought of having to go to every website I've ever registered on and change my email address - all those sites where my login name is my email address..... :x

 

I got that page this morning as well and clicked my way through it and it went through OK for me, no error messages so I don't think there is an inherent problem in the message (which is AOL's version of the GDPR requests we've been getting from everyone ahead of May 25th).

 

I do get that error message though more often than I want to see it! I'm no techie but it appears to happen when there's a problem making a connection somewhere at the local end of connecting to AOL. Major AOL connection problems country/world-wide can be tracked on several sites but it doesn't seem to be related to anything major like that. So far I've always found that leaving it for a couple of hours and avoiding peak times that day self-corrects it. Life's too short to waste trying to discuss it with the useless AOL Helpline so I no longer bother to do that unless connection problem goes on for more than 24 hours.

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watchout too

if you are using a non uk IP they stop you totally.

 

2 people I know had to use teamviewer via their uk pc to answer the GDPR questions

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Not if they were originally AOL uk accounts pre 2013.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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In case anyone who does not know Yahoo was purchased by Oath. I believe that AOL was part of Yahoo so they will be the same

 

Yes, it says that on the page I get when I try to log in. I tried to log in to Yahoo and it doesn't know who I am. I think I need to ring aol, they were quite helpful last time I had a problem.

 

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I seem to have lost the message asking me to confirm I want to stay with Aol.

 

This morning I managed to log into my email account and it started loading my messages but just kept whirring. It said I could click on something to use the Basic version of the site, but that didn't work.

 

I left it to its own devices and went and did other things and some hours later, it had finally stopped whirring and showed my emails. I'm praying that it will stay working now and not cut me off on the 25th as it threatened.

 

Thank you for everyone's help. :D

 

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hi

the message that you want to see on your screen is this one:

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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more in a mo. DX

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The message in post #15 is what I had, dx. But every time I clicked on OK - or manage options - I got the error message that said to try later.

 

I hope I'm past that stage now, I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

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I think that's wht happens once you've already clicked it

i'll test it later and see

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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