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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
    • What you have uploaded is a letter with daft empty threats from third-party paper tigers.  Just ignore it. What we need to see is the original invoice you received last October or November.
    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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Never had this previously but now just about every second post comes up with a Google ad which is quite annoying. Is this something new on CAG. No objection to ads on side and above, but not in threads as annoying!

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I have no idea why that is suddenly happening. I'm not aware that it is anything that we have changed.

 

Personally I find adds extremely annoying – but there have been discussions about this kind of thing before. It is only the large well resourced companies that can afford not to have ads. Examples include Lloyds bank, TSB, Barclays, HSBC, Nationwide, RBS, Currys, PC World, various debt collection agencies, various private parking companies, lots of cowboy building companies, Tesco's, Sainsbury's, O2, Vodafone, EE, 3, EDF, Npower, Scottish Power, SSE, Thames Water, Welsh water, British Gas, British Telecom, virgin, TalkTalk,… and the list goes on. None of these people have ads appearing on their websites to bother their customers.

 

People who visit this forum can always get ad blockers – but what this means is that we lose the little bits of revenue that we do get – whereas to all the big companies – some of which I've listed above – it doesn't matter a jot. In fact if you want to know, the companies I have listed above would probably be very pleased if everybody installed ad blockers. This would mean that all of the help forums, hobby forums, the community interest forums, all the little sources of interesting information which are put up by means of people and socially conscious groups around the world would probably cease to exist.

 

We haven't done anything to change the way ads have been displayed so I don't understand why it is happening but if it is bringing us a bit more revenue then that is a great thing – I can tell you that we really need it because by and large we struggle.

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It seems that permission was not given for these ads to appear? Are you getting revenue from the Google ad banners that are appearing at the bottom of posts in a thread and how will you know? I have no objection to being a CAG supporter and paying a sum of i.e. £10 annually not to see this type of ad. No objection to the ads for Patrica Pearl and similar in the side bars as CAG needs a constant stream of revenue from somewhere.

With the new data protection laws will there be any effect on the way CAG is managed?

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Are you getting ads that appear when you hover your mouse over specific words (NOT keywords used on CAG to inform)?

 

A while back, I managed to download (accidentally of course) a small program that did the above so that is why I wondered.

 

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In a thread at the bottom of every second or third post an Google Ad banner appears. I cannot recall any download except the big Microsoft update a few days ago. Another thing I have noticed is that I had Word 2007 linked to Firefox so that spelling mistakes were highlighted but that no longer seems to work? Maybe the Win10 update removed the link and I am not sure how to get it back.

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Well I've just checked as thoroughly as I can – and there certainly doesn't seem to be a problem with us, any rate. We haven't heard about this from anyone else. Can I suggest that maybe you try having a look at the site on someone else's device. Is this a phone? Tablet? PC? Whatever it is, see if you can have a quick look at someone else's device and see if the problem exists there.

 

If it doesn't exist there then it may well be that you have inadvertently installed some software which is riding on the back of us and producing advertising revenue for them.

 

Nice of you to describe our revenue as "a stream". I really wish it was. Where there is ads or donations I can assure you that it is a dribble at best.

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yes getting this on my Fire Tablet

started 4-5 days ago.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Very strange because I've just checked it on my phone and also on a tablet and I don't see it.

 

I'm not sure what to do – but as I said, we need all the ads and the clicks we can get – and generally speaking it's not happening

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Very strange because I've just checked it on my phone and also on a tablet and I don't see it.

 

I'm not sure what to do – but as I said, we need all the ads and the clicks we can get – and generally speaking it's not happening

Had same problm on my Galaxy On7 phone but as living in SE Asia they related to the area I live. But I notice that they no longer appear

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Very strange because I've just checked it on my phone and also on a tablet and I don't see it.

 

I'm not sure what to do – but as I said, we need all the ads and the clicks we can get – and generally speaking it's not happening

 

Have you thought about having a "supporter" status? To be a supporter you pay £10 per annum and do not see any ads. If you do not pay you still have access to all forums except perhaps to a "supporters or members" forum, but see ads? Maybe a way of having a reasonably steady stream of income?

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It's always been a fundamental principle of this site that everybody gets treated equally and we make no distinction on basis of anything which might approach "ability to pay". We don't have VIP forums. We don't make references to CMC's or solicitors in return for commission (and we've had lots of offers in the past).

 

We just try to be solid and supportive – and always free of charge.

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Yes I remember this topic before. It was thought the ads relate to your browsing history. There's the main element of that from what I receive and since I've had a clean up on PC the weird ads not appearing.

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