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    • you can have your humble opinion.... You are very new to all this private parking speculative invoice game you have very quickly taken it upon yourself to be all over this forum, now to the extent of moving away from your initial thread with your own issue that you knew little about handling to littering the forum and posting on numerous established and existing threads, where advice has already been given or a conclusion has already resulted, with your theories conclusions and observations which of course are very welcomed. BUT... in some instances, like this one...you dont quite match the advice that the forum and it's members have gathered over a very long consensual period given in a tried and trusted consistent mannered thoughtful approach. one could even call it forum hi-jacking and that is becoming somewhat worrying . dx
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Just spotted this on the Pranksters website.

 

Sunday, 29 April 2018

UKPC banned by the DVLA

UK Parking Control Ltd have been banned from accessing the DVLA database. This means for instance that if they issue a windscreen ticket, they have no way of following up and contacting the keeper (unless the keeper appeals giving away their address). This also means that any ANPR site they manage is now effectively useless because tickets cannot be issued at all. Essentially then, their income stream dries up, and any landowners using them have no effective parking management.

 

This is therefore not a step undertaken lightly by the DVLA. Although the DVLA are not divulging the exact details, they are investigating UKPC for a potential breach of contract. The DVLA will not be releasing details until the investigation is finished. UKPC will be hoping that the investigation is swifter than the investigation into MIL Collections, which has so far taken several years and is still continuing. Perhaps the investigation will be as quick as the one into Proserve, which only took a year or so.

 

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Hopefully this will take ages for the DVLA to investigate and ensuring that UKPC go broke

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Oh dear, this is terribly sad news. What a dreadful thing to happen to this wonderful company and I feel so sorry for all the landowners which they are apparently acting for.

 

I think we should have a whip round for them because clearly they need some help.

 

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About time, now let's see what GDPR does to the parking cowboys, and the DVLA.

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Wow! One wonders what on earth they have done this time to finally warrant an investigation by that laughingly "robust and diligent "enterprise known as the DVLA or as they are otherwise known-

"The Incompetents". These parking companies are regularly mentioned in the newspapers, our forum and the Parking Prankster along with countless other forums not to mention the AA, the RAC and Citizens Advice as being greedy , corrupt , crooks etc ,etc and the DVLA goes on blithely sending out our details to them without apparently a second thought.

What on earth has stung this useless and incompetent bunch to actually ban UKPC pro tem -have they actually woken up to the fact that they are not dealing with upright honest companies after all.

The Augean stables emitted much less of a smell than these corrupt, stinking merchants that are a disgrace to our Country.

Perhaps the recent criticism by certain MPS of the DVLA in relation to the venality and criminality of some private parking companies has at long last percolated into that complacent lot in Swansea and they have finally decided that they no longer want to be the laughing stock that they have become. Rumour even has it that Disney is now replacing their Mickey Mouse watches with DVLA watches so low has their reputation sunk.

One can only hope that Parking Eye will be next in the firing line.

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There has been a couple of news stories in the papers

 

http://tinyurl.com/yatql8v6

 

http://tinyurl.com/ybk7dwqm

 

From what I can gather from the stories are that when UKPC were previously suspended, they carried on ticketing cars and when the ban was over, they went after the keepers which they shouldn't have done. I would imagine that they kept the data from their ANPR operations and subsequently went after the keepers again. If this is proved then I don't think they should keep their membership of the BPA (but then, I am biased). I can imagine the ICO having an interest in this too

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I can imagine the ICO having an interest in this too

 

Think you would be mistaken. The ICO think their remit is to assist companies on how to do the minimal to get by and flout the data protection laws. They have no real interest in actually enforcing data protection correctly to the benefit of the public. For instance, a data subject needs to be aware and notified that their personal data will be processed. In the case of ANPR the registered keeper may not even be in the vehicle so will not be aware of the processing of their personal data by a PPC. Yet it does get processed by the DVLA automatically passing it on with no notification to the RK allowing them the time to object to the DVLA passing it on, and by the PPC then further processing the RK data in mos instances with no lawful reason. The GDPR is going to be a big thorn in the side. I am waiting for the ICO to respond to FOI as to how this will all be lawful under the GDPR. Bet they will fudge it to the benefit of the DVLA and the PPCs.

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any person getting a NTK from then should ask the DVLA who applied to obtain their keeper details as in the past other companies have ontained the details and then passed them on. This is also unlawful.

 

If you have got say 3 screen tickets they shoudl apply for your detaIls 3 times and not rely on the assumption that the person is still the keeper. again, checking with the DVLA abotu who and when will halp kill off this awful mob, the reason the parking co's have done so well is not their business brilliance but joe public's ignorance so spread the word

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