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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
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    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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Hi what a pain.

 

I arrived from Yorkshire early morning to check on my friends house in London, They are on holiday. He left me 30 day passes to park in permitted Zones outside the house street.

 

When I arrived, I stuck one in my car - an one day all zone pass. 7:30am.

 

About an hour later I saw a tow lorry outside about to lift my car. I went outside and said I have a pass and this is the house I'm staying in.

Apparently I didnt read a sign they stuck up a few days ago? who knows. It said Parking prohibited on dates 30th april (today) due to footway reconstruction on both sides of road from house number # to # including my mates door number!

 

They said just move your car 2 houses up and you're fine cos you have an all zone permit..but dont forget to pay the fine too:mad2:. My mates car was fined and lifted to a new spot too..i couldnt move his because it wont start..suffice to say they went on a rampage and fined every other car on the street.:!:

 

Can i appeal and what do i write in the letter?

 

Thank you.

 

Jaws

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yep, appeal. Tell them you parked there and didn't see the sign, and moved the car as soon as you realised.

 

Not sure how it will turn out, but that's about all you can do, assuming you actually were in the suspended parking area.

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I moved the car as soon as they were about to lift it to move it..the ticket was already on it.

still no road works. Is this is even normal? 2:07pm now and nothing going on outside the house.

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For parking in a suspended place. You say there was a sign there, but you missed it, so they have done what they need to by putting the sign up. It's always down to the motorist to look for signs and see what the parking conditions are.

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Is that the first thing you do when you been driving 4 and half hours to another town in the middle of night. Don't talk out of ya backside mate. Thanks for your input though.

 

But i agree if its YOUR council.

 

Its ok i'll do this myself. No help whatsoever. Used to be a good place this forum, full of pansies now.

Cagger since : Mar 2008

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Yeah, park up without looking to see what the signs say, then go onto a forum and ask if you can appeal, ask what you should write, ask what you've been fined for, then insult people who answer your questions.

 

Good stuff, Jaws.

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Its ok i'll do this myself. No help whatsoever. Used to be a good place this forum, full of pansies now.

Cagger since : Mar 2008

 

 

Ok buttercup.

I'll pick the toys ip and put them back in the play pen

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you fruit cakes, I have an all zones all day GUEST permit for the residency outside the house it was issued to ...where else was i to park it? on your head?

Stop implying i just cruised into london and parked where the hell i liked.

 

 

Yeah, park up without looking to see what the signs say, then go onto a forum and ask if you can appeal, ask what you should write, ask what you've been fined for, then insult people who answer your questions.

 

Good stuff, Jaws.

i guess you live in london? you check outside your own house to see if the rules have temporily changed? Are you trying to wind me up?

 

oh dear why do i have to repeat myself? my mates parking space in front of his house? his car got fined too...he's on holiday.. are you for real? Is this fair?

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We have traffic lights where I live, sometimes they are green, sometimes they arent.

if i went though a red one could I use the same argument, that I dont need to look to see if they have temporarily changed?

 

Traffic lights are not a London thing either.

i have seen them in York, where they seem to have bought a job lot of yellow paint and signs in an auction and just placed them up randomly but last time I was there I managed to avoid getting any tickets

 

Whilst sympathising with anyone caught out by a temporary measure that isnt always that clear in a darkend street it doesnt change the law and the OP's lashing out at all and sundry wont make things any better.

 

You have to out it down to experience and remind yourself to have a look around when you park.

Sometimes it works to your advantage such as when I used to park in Sutton on a single yellow line becasue there was no time limit plate associated with that line. The CEO's knew it so I was never ticketed.

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