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    • They have defended the claim by saying that the job was of unsatisfactory standard and they had to call another carpenter to remedy. My husband has text messages about them losing the keys a second time and also an email. What do they hope to achieve??? Most importantly,  as far as I have seen online, now I need to wait for paperwork from the court, correct?
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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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Hey, I now have a union rep which is great. GMB Union have aggreed to help. I also recieved an email from my HR dept with a meeting date. It states the reason why and there are statements from the accountant + her assistant, then one from the person who did this BUT both accountants state the wrong person in their account off things.....dont know where I stand with this, plus the venue is at my place off work which I dont want. Can I ask for it to take place at a diff location with in the company? Thanks again all

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to answer the last bit forst- No but if HR have offices away from your place of work on the site then suggest that would be more comfortable with no interruptions etc.

As for their witness statements being wrong, this is why the meeting is happening so you will get an opportunity to point ths out. Make sure your rep knows all about this beforehand and have anything that is on paper to support your side of things the co cant really argue that obeying a direct order is a breach of your conditions even if the outcome is something they dont like

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to answer the last bit forst- No but if HR have offices away from your place of work on the site then suggest that would be more comfortable with no interruptions etc.

As for their witness statements being wrong, this is why the meeting is happening so you will get an opportunity to point ths out. Make sure your rep knows all about this beforehand and have anything that is on paper to support your side of things the co cant really argue that obeying a direct order is a breach of your conditions even if the outcome is something they dont like

 

Hi, thanks for that info. Appreciate it

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Hey all, well they dismissed me as off Thur as they felt that I abused my position. Not recieved any conformation yet but have right to appeal once I do get it....gutted about it all

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I'm sorry to hear that. Was thir evidence reasonably solid? The test isn't 100% certain you did something wrong, but would it be a reasonable assumption to make following the evidence

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Always appeal. Nothing to lose and its usually done by someone from another office or outside the company.

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Sorry to hear that. I agree with the others, definitely go for the appeal.

 

Only submit a SAR now if you think you're fighting a losing battle; then you have to ask yourself why you are going through the pain of an appeal. If you lose your appeal, then submit a SAR. If you submit a SAR now, they will see you as a hinderance and be glad to be rid of you. You have the right to see the evidence they based their decision on and that is all you need at this stage.

 

Remember, if you want to take them to a tribunal you only have 3 months to do so from your dismissal date. Don't wait for your appeal decision as it may take longer than 3 months.

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Thanks all. I will be def appealling this but know that this will make no diff. They have taken statements from 'all' 12 salemen but only 3 were provided as add evidence against me, 1 off whom really does not like me and was forced to move to our branch but didnt want to as I was there. Another was from anonymous which said they heard me asking.....its a joke tbh honest given the other things that went on and nothing getting done, HR wise, about it and alot worse than what I got accused off....

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From what I've gathered it's all to do with if they followed a fair procedure in reaching there decision rather than if your actually guilty or not which is frustrating so I'm concentrating more on the length of time it has taken them to investigate my situation. Terrible situation your in and completely understand how your feeling

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