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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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right, as you know at this time all it needs is a skeleton defence so what does the defendant intend to write?

 

get it posted up here and we will advise accordingly.

 

The main thing is not saying too much in detail at this point or you can lead yourself down a dead end road.

 

If they have failed to follow the protocols of the POFA then there is no keeper liability so stating that as the first point is OK but dont add anything to that statement, nothing about who may have been driving

, the fact you were in prison on remand at the time or anything else,

it is all irrelevant to the failure to create a keeper liability.

 

next you say that anyway there is no contract between the defendant so no breach can have possibly occurred and no basis of claim.

 

again, no need to go into detail,

there could be a number of points you want to raise later about this

but stating a simple fact is enough for the moment,

let them think about it and worry.

 

thirdly you can state that they have failed to show locus standi by not producing a copy of the agreement between then and the landowner that assigns the right to enter into contracts with the public and to make civil claims in their own name nor have they produced evidence of the necessary planning permissions for their signage or other equipment.

 

that is more than enough for the moment.

 

yes, this can be submitted at any time up until the last date but send it too early and Gladstones will change their claim to fit in with what you have said

 

so for example if you state that the claim is for a breach of contract when it is a contractual sum they are claiming ( big difference even though it is often missed) then they will adjust the wording of their claim.

 

Likewise if you go anywhere near admission of being the driver they will tweak the claim to suit.

 

generally what they write is generis rubbish so in the Witness Statement the defendant should pick up on these points and say that they havent made it clear as to why the money is owed

 

and in what capacity they are suing the defendant as it cant be both driver and keeper it has to be one or the other and the lack of POFA complaince means they have to show evidence as to who was driving at the time.

 

all of these points arent generally enough to see off a claim on their own even if the judge uses one of them to dismiss the claim,

 

it is usually because of the weight of evidence in your favour and the other points then dont need mentioning on the record.

 

You rarely get a full list of what went wrong for the claimant because there is no need to list them all out but you include everything as you cnant afford to second guess the judge

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Thanks Ericsbrother.

 

That's all really helpful.

 

The defence is still the same as that which is posted above. I just don't know what consists of too early to submit defence?

 

Is day 28 ok or does he wait until weds?...(day 31) or even later?

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Do not file until friday 13 th by 4pm

Day 33 from the date on the claimform which is one in the count

 

You get 28 days from service of the claimform

Service of the claimform is deemed done in 5 days

 

..28+5=33

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send it whenever you want as long as it gets there in time.

 

Too early is like last week or the week before,

they will have trouble trying to fiddle things now and anyways, they are hoping that you wont have spotted their errors and still go for trying to wind you up before the actual hearing.

 

Once they get the WS they will probably apply the brakes and slink off back into their bunker, which I believe is on the 17th fairway, next to some rabbit poo (look up their registered address to appreciate this).

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Brilliant. I get an answer to my question and you both say the complete opposite. Too funny.

 

And love the rabbit joke, understood it straight away ha ha.

 

Hopefully I can leave you in peace for a few days now...but don't hold your breath!!!

 

Thank so much.

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not really the opposite, there was only 4 days to file so by the time you had asked the question it wasnt too soon.

 

What we are trying to say is never file on day 1 as they then have a month to receive it and change their story.

 

It will be past the last date by the time your defence goes onto the system and Gladdys wont be able to muck about without paying a further fee.

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Thanks EB.

 

Well, quick as a flash, Gladdys have replied! No time wasting this time.....

 

17th July 2018

We Act for the Claimant and have notified the Court of our Client's intention to proceed with the claim.

 

Please find enclosed a copy of our Client's completed Directions Questionnaire, which will be filed with the court upon their request. You will note we intend to request a special direction that the case be dealt with on the papers and without the need for an oral hearing.

 

This request is sought simply because the matter is in our Client's opinion relatively straightforward and the costs incurred by both parties for attending an oral hearing would be disproportionate. We trust you agree.

 

You will note our Client has opted not to mediate. Its decision is not meant to be in any way obstructive and is based purely on experience, as mediation has rarely proven beneficial in these types of cases. Notwithstanding this, our Client would be happy to listen to any genuine payment proposals that you wish to put forward.

Yours sincerely

GS

Gladstones Solicitors

 

Does the Defendant now wait to hear from the Court?

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you should let the court know that you need an oral hearing to cross examine their witness.

 

It is your right and all they are doing is trying to pull the wool over your and the courts eyes and often introduce evidence that you wont have seen and say things that arent true without offering you the chance of rebutting their twaddle.

 

They do this all the time but they dont knock off the £50 from their claim for the costs of attending!

 

DO NOT communicate with Gladdys on this, just let the court know you want a hearing and not have the matter decided on the papers.

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Ok, sounds good to me thanks.

 

Have drafted this for him to send:

 

County Court Business Centre

4th Floor St Katherine’s House

21-27 St Katherine’s Street

Northampton

NN1 2LH

 

Dear Sirs,

 

In relation to the above claim the defendant would like to bring to your attention the Claimant’s request for a special direction to have the matter dealt with on papers and without the need for an oral hearing.

 

Today a copy of the Claimant’s Direction Questionnaire was received, in which the above intention was made. The Defendant does not consent to this and would like to make the Courts Service aware that an oral hearing is being requested to allow the Defendant to cross examine any witness the Claimant may have.

 

Not entirely sure whether the words 'defendant' need to be used in this letter but have gone with it lol. Does anything else need to be said?

 

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Shorter letter saying that you object to their demand to have ther matter decided "on the papers" and you want a proper hearing where their witnesses can be cross-examined will suffice. Dont need to tell the court that today you read your post and that you intend to go for a walk later.

 

 

 

 

 

as for defendant- read the N1 form, the claimant issues it and the defendant responds. You are the defendant.

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LOL! I was trying to pad it out a bit for him, looked like it needed a bit more text ha!

 

Re defendant bit was just unsure if the letter needed to be worded in third person.

 

Will remove life story and make it more concise.

 

Thank you!

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Hello again!

 

Letter has been sent to court requesting an oral hearing.

 

Today the old man received a Directions Questionnaire, which he has completed.

 

On the front there is a covering letter which looks like it's addressing the Claimant....I see from other posts on this forum that this is a copy of the letter sent to the Claimant for the Defendants reference.

 

The letter asks for the questionnaire to be filed by 8th August Is that also for the Claimant? (looking on MCOL they've already filed theirs).....CUE QUESTIONS>>>>>>>

 

***Does the defendant also have to file theirs by the same date?

 

***Can this be done via email? I've seen the address somewhere on this forum but for the life in me I can't find it now!! So just to check is this correct? ( [email protected] )

 

***Is a typed signature sufficient if submitting by email?

 

***Does a copy need to be sent to Gladdys?

 

Ever grateful for your guidance :-)

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not cant be done by email

 

no to mediation

1 wit you

the rest is obv

 

3 copies

1 to the court

1 to gladdy's [minus sig/email/phone]

1 for your file

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

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Morning. Just wanted to double check that the other half doesn't need to do anything with the letter he got. It reads:

 

Upon considering the the papers on the court file it is ordered that this case be transferred to the county court at xxxx and the file has been sent to that court.

If this order was made as a result of a without notice application or on the courts own initiative and if you object to the order you may make an application to have it set aside, varied or stayed provided the application is made within 7 days of service of the order.

 

He's getting antsy again!

Thank you

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this means it will be heard at your local court unless the named court is not your local one. You need to do nothing, it is normal. You will soon be given a hearing date when they can look at the papers an their calendar, you usually have to swap evidence bundles a fortnight before the hearing date. Gladdys will try and offer a settlemant for a lesser amount in the hope that they dont have to get someone to turn up and be humiliated because the LAST THING THEY WANT IS AN ACTUAL HEARING.

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Morning all!

 

We have been away a few days and have come home to court papers.

 

The claimant has until 4pm on the date of the hearing to pay the court fee or the case will be struck out.....but the hearing is at 2pm on that same day??? This doesn't make sense to me?

 

Also is now the time defendant needs to put together full defence and send copies to court and claimant?

 

Thanks!

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Right, you get your WS written up and them phone the court to clarify the allocation fee bit. If you are using moneyclaim online you can check the dates things are supposed to eb done there and use the dashboard to whack in a strike out for non payment if the dates are showing on there differently ( ie sooner)

What is the date of the hearing?

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Thanks EB have just called court and yes it is a typo. Hearing is 2nd Nov.

Will get the ball and chain to keep checking MCOL. The court have extended the date (was actually 5th Oct) to 12th Oct.

Will write up WS. Copies need to be sent to Claimant no later than 14 days before court date as I remember?

 

Thanks!

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