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    • Yep, I read that and thought about trying to find out what the consideration and grace period is at Riverside but not sure I can. I know they say "You must tell us the specific consideration/grace period at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is"  but I doubt they would disclose it to the public, maybe I should have asked in my CPR 31.14 letter? Yes, I think I can get rid of 5 minutes. I am also going to include a point about BPA CoP: 13.2 The reference to a consideration period in 13.1 shall not apply where a parking event takes place. I think that is Deception .... They giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other!
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    • the Town and Country [advertisments ] Regulations 2007 are not easy to understand. Most Council planing officials don't so it's good that you found one who knows. Although he may not have been right if the rogues have not been "controlling" in the car park for that long. The time only starts when the ANPR signs go up, not how long the area has been used as a car park.   Sadly I have checked Highview out and they have been there since at least 2014 . I have looked at the BPA Code of Practice version 8 which covers 2023 and that states Re Consideration and Grace Periods 13.3 Where a parking location is one where a limited period of parking is permitted, or where drivers contract to park for a defined period and pay for that service in advance (Pay & Display), this would be considered as a parking event and a Grace Period of at least 10 minutes must be added to the end of a parking event before you issue a PCN. It then goes on to explain a bit more further down 13.5 You must tell us the specific consideration/grace period at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is. 13.6 Neither a consideration period or a grace period are periods of free parking and there is no requirement for you to offer an additional allowance on top of a consideration or grace period. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________So you have  now only overstayed 5 minutes maximum since BPA quote a minimum of 10 minutes. And it may be that the Riverside does have a longer period perhaps because of the size of the car park? So it becomes even more incumbent on you to remember where the extra 5 minutes could be.  Were you travelling as a family with children or a disabled person where getting them in and out of the car would take longer. Was there difficulty finding a space, or having to queue to get out of the car park . Or anything else that could account for another 5 minutes  without having to claim the difference between the ANPR times and the actual times.
    • Regarding a driver, that HAS paid for parking but input an incorrect Vehicle Registration Number.   This is an easy mistake to make, especially if a driver has access to more than one vehicle. First of all, upon receiving an NTK/PCN it is important to check that the Notice fully complies with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 before deciding how to respond of course. The general advice is NOT to appeal to the Private Parking Company as, for example, you may identify yourself as driver and in certain circumstances that could harm your defence at a later stage. However, after following a recent thread on this subject, I have come to the conclusion that, in the case of inputting an incorrect Vehicle Registration Number, which is covered by “de minimis” it may actually HARM your defence at a later stage if you have not appealed to the PPC at the first appeal stage and explained that you DID pay for parking and CAN provide proof of parking, it was just that an incorrect VRN was input in error. Now, we all know that the BPA Code of Practice are guidelines from one bunch of charlatans for another bunch of charlatans to follow, but my thoughts are that there could be problems in court if a judge decides that a motorist has not followed these guidelines and has not made an appeal at the first appeal stage, therefore attempting to resolve the situation before it reaches court. From BPA Code of Practice: Section 17:  Keying Errors B) Major Keying Errors Examples of a major keying error could include: • Motorist entered their spouse’s car registration • Motorist entered something completely unrelated to their registration • Motorist made multiple keying errors (beyond one character being entered incorrectly) • Motorist has only entered a small part of their VRM, for example the first three digits In these instances we would expect that such errors are dealt with appropriately at the first appeal stage, especially if it can be proven that the motorist has paid for the parking event or that the motorist attempted to enter their VRM or were a legitimate user of the car park (eg a hospital patient or a patron of a restaurant). It is appreciated that in issuing a PCN in these instances, the operator will have incurred charges including but not limited to the DVLA fee and other processing costs therefore we believe that it is reasonable to seek to recover some of these costs by making a modest charge to the motorist of no more than £20 for a 14-day period from when the keying error was identified before reverting to the charge amount at the point of appeal. Now, we know that the "modest charge" is unenforceable in law, however, it would be up to the individual if they wanted to pay and make the problem go away or in fact if they wanted to contest the issue in court. If the motorist DOES appeal to the PPC explaining the error and the PPC rejects the appeal and the appeal fails, the motorist can use that in his favour at court.   Defence: "I entered the wrong VRN by mistake Judge, I explained this and I also submitted proof of payment for the relevant parking period in my appeal but the PPC wouldn't accept that"   If the motorist DOES NOT appeal to the PPC in the first instance the judge may well use that as a reason to dismiss the case in the claimant's favour because they may decide that they had the opportunity to resolve the matter at a much earlier stage in the proceedings. It is my humble opinion that a motorist, having paid and having proof of payment but entering the wrong VRN, should make an appeal at the first appeal stage in order to prevent problems at a later stage. In this instance, I think there is nothing to be gained by concealing the identity of the driver, especially if at a later stage, perhaps in court, it is said: “I (the driver) entered the wrong VRN.” Whether you agree or not, it is up to the individual to decide …. but worth thinking about. Any feedback, especially if you can prove to the contrary, gratefully received.
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Why is recycling such a confusing issue ?

 

British consumers are in the dark about exactly what household waste they can recycle, a new poll has revealed, with plastic soap dispenser tops, dirty kitchen roll and wrapping paper topping the list of things they wrongly consider recyclable.

Research shows that Britons are more aware than ever of how recycling can help the environment. However, the majority are putting out contaminated recycling due to common misunderstandings, thereby doing more harm than good.

Eight out of ten Britons believe recycling makes a difference, the research for the British Science Association (BSA) shows, yet when quizzed on exactly what items can go into their recycling bins, none of the 2,000 adult Britons surveyed got full marks.

 

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I am horrified at the reports regarding plastic specifically and the damage it is doing to wild life and the environment.

 

Why can we not be given clear guidelines rather than being threatened with not having our bins emptied or fines.

 

Whilst common sense should make one see that you dont put contaminated paper/plastic in for recycling, it is still very confusing as to what we can and cant put in our recycling bins.

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Problem is it depends on what your council considers recyclable as ultimately very little needs to go to landfill but the cost of processing the waste can be large compared to the return you get for the recycled materials so they cant be bothered with it and blame the housholder for their failure to comply with the law (unfortunately they are allowed to pass the buck to fulfil their obligations).

 

I am a fan of incineration to produce power but a lot of the radical environmentalist arent but they dont have a solution to the problem, just the mantra that we shouldnt use the stuff. They fly to meetings all over the world at the taxpayers expense to tell each other how noble they are but miss the irony of it all.

 

Green or black plastic comes from somewhere so it can be recycled and reused but the cost of processing makes it unviable to the manufacturer of the items.We need to be telling the supermarkets that we dont want such waste and they wil use alternatives but that needs a concerted effort by the buying public and supermarkets will by necessity have to stock less prepacked perishables so be prepared to queue more or even go to a proper butchers/greengrocers instead. The favourite materials for recycling are the cheapest to buy as raw materials so again a big opportunity is being missed.

 

Green glass is another one, we dont bottle enough wine in the UK to make it worthwhile recycling the green glass. Clear glass is easily contaminated and returnable brown beer bottles are a thing of the past in most breweries as well. Some countries use cheap aqua glass for jars and the like but the British housewife likes clear so it all goes in the bin to be dumped. In Australia you can use glass recycling facilities that crush the glass into sand size particles and this is used to help remediate the Great Barrier Reef. Glass is too reactive to use as building sand but research into using it as road aggregate is being done

 

Another use of rubbish would be to rebuild a lot of the embankments on flood risk rivers. Most of the legislation about landfill comes from the EU because countries like Austria have nowhere to dump theirs and as one size fits all we have to obey the diktat as well. The worst quality agricultural land in Austria is about £25000 an acre whereas in the UK decent farmland will cost you about £7000 an acre despite the greater population density here.

 

There was a report saying that a river in Manchester had the most bits f plastic for any river tested. This research has several flaws, the first one being all of the equipment they used for collecting saples was PLASTIC ad secondly they havent done enough work anywhere lese to give a menaingful comparison. It is like counting the number of disabled people at the paralympics and then assuming that the rest of the world is more disabled because otherwise they would have been competing instead.

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NHDC collects all types of glass, BIFFA then recycles it. Having spent millions on processing equipment for glass I’d be surprised if it gets dumped...

 

Bedfordshire, however, doesn’t take glass...

 

It seems there isn’t really any excuse not to, though...

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Each Council is different as to what it will or will not accept for recycling & even then will change their minds about materials every couple of months or so. A more coherent policy that can be maintained is needed.

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have a look at the work of Professor Chris Cheeseman at imperial College dept of civil engineering, friend of mine since his student days and worked on a lot stuff together.

The road to hell isnt paved with good intentions, it is paved with PFA silceram, etc. Extracting a material from the rubbish doesnt automatically mean that it gets reused or recycled as the same thing, a huge amount gets sent abroad.

 

NHDC collects all types of glass, BIFFA then recycles it. Having spent millions on processing equipment for glass I’d be surprised if it gets dumped...

 

Bedfordshire, however, doesn’t take glass...

 

It seems there isn’t really any excuse not to, though...

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have a look at the work of Professor Chris Cheeseman at imperial College dept of civil engineering, friend of mine since his student days and worked on a lot stuff together.

The road to hell isnt paved with good intentions, it is paved with PFA silceram, etc. Extracting a material from the rubbish doesnt automatically mean that it gets reused or recycled as the same thing, a huge amount gets sent abroad.

 

Your friends work is exactly the kind of thing we need. I recycle just as much as I possibly can and I’m proud that I produce less than a carrier bag sized amount of landfill for the fortnightly collection but it frustrates me when obviously recyclable/reusable stuff is land filled..... grr....

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saw a news item on the use of plastics instead of bitumen in road surfacing. like adding power station waste to cement and aggregates you still need to use the primary stuff but a good way of reusing some of the plastics that are otherwise non recyclable.

 

More than half of the gypsum used in the plaster industry now comes fro power station sulphur scrubbers so where is that going to come fro when we no longer have coal fired power stations? the asjh that used to be dumped is made into cement and material that was buried as landfill in the 1960's-70's has been dug up and used in cement manufacture so one day people will be mining our old rubbish tips as a source of raw materials.

 

Early computers are a source of gold as so many of the connectors on the chips were gold wire. They are crushed and then treated to recover it. Old telephone exchanges used platinum on the switch contacts and I have spent a couple of days of my life recovering such things from skips outside old excahnges before the powers that be woke up to their waste and got a company to do the recovery for them rather then allowing privarte enterprise.

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