Received a yellow PCN whilst in retail park 3/1/18.

Yellow one from VCS.

I was parked in the Disabled bay and in a rush.

Placed my badge, not right down at the window, because I can't reach it to put it away.

Saw the PCN, opened the car door and the badge was on the floor.

Unfortunately I did say I was driving and sent copy blue badge.

I have sent two letters to VCS and the one I got last week said I still had to pay and I could still pay the original amount of £60.

This is stressing me out, sleepless nights, worrying and causing my asthma to flare up. Not good at writing letters. Help!!!!

Firstly, don't panic!

Others more knowledgeable than me will be on in the morning.

Meanwhile one solution that comes to mind is to approach the shop where you were shopping. You were a genuine customer and are genuinely disabled, so you should demand the shop tell VCS to cancel.

However, get some kip and wait for the experts tomorrow!

Have approached shop but no luck . Look forward to the morning.

Private car park in scotland? They cant touch you. i'd ignore it.

urm time to back pedal you've identified yourself as the driver

next time do nothing!

Private car park in scotland? They cant touch you. i'd ignore it.

But the OP has admitted being the driver.

can scan up your PCN and your appeal you sent please to PDF

read upload

Hi. I have misplaced the ticket and first appeal letter that I sent to them.

The rest of correspondence has been done by e mail and they have replied by e mail.

I'm on a kindle and tried uploading, it's not working.

an I send them to you in private e mail?

docs1.pdf

NTK.pdf

docs in the above post now

I see their usual game again

they don't know if they are writing to you as VCS or excel...

where is you appeal?

When I did appeal it was on My Parking Services you just clicked on appeal now. I don't have a copy.

is it still there?

No. What now?

ok you've done your best

await the experts now.

Which experts?

the volunteers in this forum.poss be the morning

nothing to sweat over here.

Do you live locally to the car park in question? Some pictures of the signage in and around the site might be useful, especially any signage relating to spaces for blue badge holders.

Sometimes VCS/Excel signage only says that you need to have a blue badge to park in those spaces and doesn't mention the need to display the badge at all, so it'll be interesting to see what they actually say.

I know the Blue Badge rules are slightly different in Scotland, but I'm almost certain that on private land they are exactly the same as England & Wales. Meaningless.

ericsbrother is more clued up on BB issues than I am though, so I'm sure that he'll have some thoughts to add once he sees this thread later.

Sit tight for now, you'll probably end up owing VCS/Excel nothing at all.

not true, contract law still applies.

In Scotland there is no keeper liability and no trespass , the latter destroying any claim where the signage says "no parking" or similar.

Also the blus badge scheme applies to private land if the occupier signs up to it with the local council.

This in itself may be a get out for the OP as VCS wont have the interest in this matter but the council might.

Now as the blue badge was displayed VCS will have to have signage that is very specific in this matter like "blue badge must not be displayed in the footwell of the car" or there is no contractual term to breach.

What you must understand gusgus is that these people are not honest brokers and will do and say anhything to get money out of you so for the moment give up any though of defeating this with reason and just let them waste their money writing to you.

Do not respond for the moment but get some decent pictures of the signage.

Never admit being the driver of any vehicle in Scotland and they cant chase you.

Private car park in scotland? They cant touch you. i'd ignore it.

Thank you very much. I will get photos of signage today as retail park not far. I won't respond to any more correspondence and will wait and see what happens.

Thank you all.

NTK added to post 8

Got a letter from Smart Parking saying they hAve forwarded my case to debt recovery and I have to contact the firm if I wish to discuss it.

What do I do?

Merged the above post in to your existing thread.

Did you manage to get any pictures of the signage on site?

Ok thank you. I've been ill so will get tomorrow.

You can safely ignore Debt Recovery. T

hey will send you ever more threatening letters adding more unlawful fees each time.

Finally just before they give up they will send you a begging letter reducing the amount they want you to pay-isn't that kind of them?

Ignore all their letters- if some one took out all their false teeth they would still not be as toothless as debt collectors.

how much are they asking for?

Answer more than the original £100 or whatever.

Ask yourself what lawful reason they have for adding this extra amount.

If a contract says you owe £100 then £100 it is, not £160 because some other muppet with no interest in the matter has written to you.

they rely on ignorance to make a living and they are allowed to get away with it because the law always allows those with money to dictate to those without

Thanks for advice. I'm just not contacting them.

They asked for £60 then £100, back to £60 and now forwarded to debt collectors.