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    • depends what the fees are, typically nothing can be added once judgement is passed bar litigation costs. on document retention time limits etc at least 6yrs previous must be held though many hold complete info. as for acronyms and abbreviations ideally yes they should     
    • Still have to submit a statement either system....if they fail they can only give verbal because they failed to file and serve.
    • OP stated they had been arrested, but not charged (let alone convicted). They DON'T have a criminal record, but do have an entry on the PNC. That information stays on the PNC (Police National Computer) for life, but doesn't get released in a standard DBS. It only MIGHT get released for an Enhanced DBS (eDBS) check  ... but it would be incredibly unlikely. (The rational behind this is that eDBS's allow for 'information at Chief Officer of Police's discretion' ..... this covers the 2 'barring lists' and is also intended for the scenario where someone has multiple arrests or investigations, where safeguarding is a concern .... it was brought in after the Soham murders / Ian Huntley case, where the information known about the now-convicted child murderer may have prevented his employment in a school, had it been made available). So, for the sake of accuracy and completeness, arrests stay on the PNC for life, wont appear in a standard DBS, MIGHT appear in an eDBS, but in reality, would be the exception rather than the norm, and I can't see them being released  to a defense barrister. What then if the defence found out a different way, and brought it up in court?. Again, unlikely, but the important feature is that the judge would make sure they trod very carefully!. They MIGHT consider using it if there were other factors that allowed them to try to cast doubts as to the truthfulness of your evidence, but on its own : No way. Anyone MIGHT be arrested (if a seemingly plausible complaint been made against them)! The approach to take if it did come up is to be truthful. "Yes, I was arrested. It arose from a vexatious complaint. I wasn't charged, let alone convicted. That could happen to any one of us, if a vexatious complaint gets made" Far better that than lying, saying you'd never been arrested, and getting caught in a lie : that would ruin your credibility. I'm incredibly doubtful it will even come up, though.
    • we dont get N157 because its new OCMC but no court dont have evidence either.   Just seems a bit of a pointless wait but oh well
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everything you need to know is already said in that other thread..

 

bottom line

forget all about it and ignore everything.

inc the letters

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi.

 

I've started a new thread for you, please continue to post on this one.

 

Sending letters is about all DWF can do. As dx says, you need to read other threads about DWF to see how they operate.

 

The main thing is to learn from this and not o it again. Do you have issues that could have made you shoplift?

 

HB

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Never ever done it before the manager asked why I said I didn’t know.

 

I’ve had a bad time recently.

 

Was stalked and harassed by a man.

 

I really don’t know I’ve learnt from it anyway.

 

Any letters I get I’ll just pay as I deserve to pay !

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I can never go in Sainsburys again and I totally understand that just worried they’ll name and shame me around the area

 

Yes I have booked an appointment. Will u help me with what to do with these letters when they arrive?

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Yes I have booked an appointment. Will u help me with what to do with these letters when they arrive?

 

Good. :) I hope it helps.

 

Yes, when you get letters, comeback here and we'll talk you through what's going on, which is likely to be empty threats. They're often written to sound scary, so by all means come back and we'll reassure you.

 

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go see your doc

ignore the letters totally

nothing they can do

and paying wont solve it either.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope ignoring them causes no problems at all there is NOTHING they can do.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi and welcome from me. Sorry I didn't reply to your PM yesterday.

 

DWF are the same as RLP as they send out these letters with no grounds to do so. They could say they want £150 but equally, I could send you a letter for the same amount. Would you pay me? It is the same with DWF.

 

The only difference between DWF and RLP are that DWF are a firm of solicitors but they have a little more common sense than RLP. You will get 3-4 letters from them and from what I have seen on CAG, they stop. You may get a debt collection firm chasing but they have as much power as I do-none!

 

Therefore, the obvious option is to ignore these missives as it will go nowhere near a court. Read other threads and don't forget to read the stickies too; some valuable info there.

 

Again, obviously find out why you did what you did and your GP has probably seen this a few times but from my own experience (as a youth) I felt the need the add a little excitement into my boring life. The thrill of stealing and getting away with it helps- but not for long. The downer comes later as I felt guilty for stealing things I didn't even need!! My GP helped me understand my feelings and a very short course of counselling helped. I have not stolen anything in over 30 years (well, apart from the odd kiss!) :-)

 

So, after my essay, get help, don't do it again and ignore DWF.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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we'll have already seen them but yes to PDF please

read upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Awwww thank u for replying can I upload any letters I get for you to read over? Yes my life is very isolated atm and have little confidence but no excuse to steal

 

When and if I receive the letters (no doubt I will) if I pay the fine would that be the end of it?

 

I have a ban but would the letters and potential for anymore action be stopped??

 

No court action??

 

So worried

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there is no FINE

no it wont stop but its only 3-4 letters to bin

there never can be any court action

 

forget it

move on with your life

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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In the stickies is this thread

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?356933-Oxford-Retail-Loss-Prevention-A-Retailer-**-reveiwed-September-2015-**&p=3898857&viewfull=1#post3898857

 

This case is the reason no civil recovery company bothers with court action or encourages the retailer to do so either as they know that a well defended case would cost them lots for no return

 

This is not a fine as only criminal courts can deal them out. This is purely a civil matter. Understand the difference. No fine, just an invoice which you can choose to ignore as there is no other route for these barrel scrapers to follow.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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