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    • you can have your humble opinion.... You are very new to all this private parking speculative invoice game you have very quickly taken it upon yourself to be all over this forum, now to the extent of moving away from your initial thread with your own issue that you knew little about handling to littering the forum and posting on numerous established and existing threads, where advice has already been given or a conclusion has already resulted, with your theories conclusions and observations which of course are very welcomed. BUT... in some instances, like this one...you dont quite match the advice that the forum and it's members have gathered over a very long consensual period given in a tried and trusted consistent mannered thoughtful approach. one could even call it forum hi-jacking and that is becoming somewhat worrying . dx
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everything you need to know is already said in that other thread..

 

bottom line

forget all about it and ignore everything.

inc the letters

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi.

 

I've started a new thread for you, please continue to post on this one.

 

Sending letters is about all DWF can do. As dx says, you need to read other threads about DWF to see how they operate.

 

The main thing is to learn from this and not o it again. Do you have issues that could have made you shoplift?

 

HB

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Never ever done it before the manager asked why I said I didn’t know.

 

I’ve had a bad time recently.

 

Was stalked and harassed by a man.

 

I really don’t know I’ve learnt from it anyway.

 

Any letters I get I’ll just pay as I deserve to pay !

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I can never go in Sainsburys again and I totally understand that just worried they’ll name and shame me around the area

 

Yes I have booked an appointment. Will u help me with what to do with these letters when they arrive?

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Yes I have booked an appointment. Will u help me with what to do with these letters when they arrive?

 

Good. :) I hope it helps.

 

Yes, when you get letters, comeback here and we'll talk you through what's going on, which is likely to be empty threats. They're often written to sound scary, so by all means come back and we'll reassure you.

 

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go see your doc

ignore the letters totally

nothing they can do

and paying wont solve it either.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope ignoring them causes no problems at all there is NOTHING they can do.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi and welcome from me. Sorry I didn't reply to your PM yesterday.

 

DWF are the same as RLP as they send out these letters with no grounds to do so. They could say they want £150 but equally, I could send you a letter for the same amount. Would you pay me? It is the same with DWF.

 

The only difference between DWF and RLP are that DWF are a firm of solicitors but they have a little more common sense than RLP. You will get 3-4 letters from them and from what I have seen on CAG, they stop. You may get a debt collection firm chasing but they have as much power as I do-none!

 

Therefore, the obvious option is to ignore these missives as it will go nowhere near a court. Read other threads and don't forget to read the stickies too; some valuable info there.

 

Again, obviously find out why you did what you did and your GP has probably seen this a few times but from my own experience (as a youth) I felt the need the add a little excitement into my boring life. The thrill of stealing and getting away with it helps- but not for long. The downer comes later as I felt guilty for stealing things I didn't even need!! My GP helped me understand my feelings and a very short course of counselling helped. I have not stolen anything in over 30 years (well, apart from the odd kiss!) :-)

 

So, after my essay, get help, don't do it again and ignore DWF.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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we'll have already seen them but yes to PDF please

read upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Awwww thank u for replying can I upload any letters I get for you to read over? Yes my life is very isolated atm and have little confidence but no excuse to steal

 

When and if I receive the letters (no doubt I will) if I pay the fine would that be the end of it?

 

I have a ban but would the letters and potential for anymore action be stopped??

 

No court action??

 

So worried

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there is no FINE

no it wont stop but its only 3-4 letters to bin

there never can be any court action

 

forget it

move on with your life

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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In the stickies is this thread

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?356933-Oxford-Retail-Loss-Prevention-A-Retailer-**-reveiwed-September-2015-**&p=3898857&viewfull=1#post3898857

 

This case is the reason no civil recovery company bothers with court action or encourages the retailer to do so either as they know that a well defended case would cost them lots for no return

 

This is not a fine as only criminal courts can deal them out. This is purely a civil matter. Understand the difference. No fine, just an invoice which you can choose to ignore as there is no other route for these barrel scrapers to follow.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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