im a 60 year old male ,

went to sign on today,

a couple of weeks after being moved from esa to jsa,

straight away i am being sent to a place called workroutes tomorrow, for a consultation, even though i need a walking stick as i can not stand for more than ten minutes,

my adviser says they will get me moving forward, as im creating barriers,

any one know what this workroutes entails.

How ridiculous. I hope it is not as bad as you fear and that they don't make to many unrealistic demands on you.

arrived today for the interview,

the interviewer looked around 20 years old.

there was 6 or 7 people round a table mainly teenagers, all on jsa.

the course lasts for 12 months,

cv writing interview skills bla bla bla,

been there done it numerous times in the past,

got to go again next week to find out more.

I am so sorry that you are being treated so badly by the DWP,

this seems to be happening to everyone.

Did you put in a Mandatory Reconsideration on the assessment?

no was told there is no point appealing

my friend is 62 and as had three strokes and is now blind in one eye. and he failed his assessment,and failed on his appeal.

my jsa adviser even told me she has had to deal with lots of failed esa clients, who were a lot worse health wise than me, she said you would have to be at deaths door before getting esa,

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Each case is on its own merits. The idea of the Work Capability Assessment as you know, is to assess whether someone is incapable of any type of work.

If you search around online many of the charities that deal with these issues, have information on their websites about the assessments, how to appeal etc. They detail the descriptors ( evidence to support limited capability for work) that DWP want to see, when they consider that someone is unfit for work.

In regard to the organisation that is helping you with worksearch tailored to suit your health etc, ask whether there is a choice of provider in your area.

If you would prefer more 1-1 support there might be other options.

For example in many areas organisations that help with health issues e.g NHS mental health providers have employment assistance support teams. Charities/not for profit organisations that support older people and/or disabled.

You don't have to use the one DWP organise, you can find your own organisation to assist you and then you have better 1-1 support, without these group sessions.

Ive had enough of work, im tired and exhausted and have lots of health issues, and worked most of my life in warehouses , now im shot,

just want to retire. but got six more years left.

I was told that when anyone puts in a request for a mandatory reconsideration the decision makers are instructed to uphold the original result BUT you need to go through this insulting rubbish before being allowed to appeal.

It is only at appeal will your evidence even be looked at!

You will then have a chance to put your case face to face to an independent panel.

I have done this now twice with success.

I put together a file of evidence.

All my doctors, hospital notes, appointment details etc along with personal letters from friends to support my case.

I took with me a second file just in case the original had been 'misplaced'.

I am glad that I did because 50% of the file was missing!

I was then able to pass over my file to the panel so they had all my evidence for them to consider.

From the moment you send the letter to say that you want to appeal the decision, you will then be put onto a lower rate of ESA until your appeal has taken place.

Please consider jumping through the hoops that they put in our way to get the result you need, the result you paid your NI for, and are entitled to!

no was told theirs no point appealing my friend is 62 and as had three strokes and is now blind in one eye. and he failed his assessment,and failed on his appeal.

my jsa adviser even told me she has had to deal with lots of failed esa clients,who were a lot worse health wise than me,she said you would have to be at deaths door before getting esa,

This makes me so angry, you don't have to be at deaths door to get ESA.

I was put in the Support Group last year after my assessment.

I wish these advisers would stop misleading claimants, GRRRR.....

Some of those advisors don't know what they are talking about I get esa with no problems and I'm not at deaths door,you should do the MR you might be one of the lucky ones that wins if you don't you can go to tribunal some people wait nearly a year for tribunal and in that time you will be paid esa assessment rate and wouldn't need to go to the job centre or workroutes.

now im confused i have had no sleep in weeks due to nasal polyps blocking my nose, and i can not see a specialist at my hospital until April. then i will have to wait to have another operation to remove the polyps could take months. ,ive had ten opps over the years and they just keep coming back, i am constantly trying to blow my nose but its blocked solid and the polyps are hanging out of my nose. could i go back on sick until after the operation.on my nose, who the hell would want to set me on in my state.