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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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I have been with the same Mortgage Provider since 2008. Due to the high level of SVR on the mortgage product, In 2015, I contacted them, and asked if it was possible to do a core product transfer to one of the other mortgages available within the brand.

 

At the time of asking in early 2015, i was told that i was unable to do an internal core product transfer from one part of the brand to another. I inquired about this around ten times between 2015 and 2017.

 

In early 2017, i inquired one more time, and on this occasion, i was told that i was classed as an existing customer, and therefore could do a core product transfer at anytime. I have since done the internal core product transfer and changed from a high SVR to a 2-year fixed deal. The saving per month is over £200.

 

As a result of the bank not telling me that i was able to do an internal core product transfer, i estimate that i have been paying exceptionally high mortgage repayments, and could have saved over £5k, had i been given the correct information.

 

I complained to the bank saying that they should have signposted me to other mortgage products available within the group, and had they done so several year's ago, i would have been substantially better off. The bank did not uphold my complaint. They stated that there adviser's aren't allowed to signpost me on the phone. The problem with there defence is that i was only able to do the core product transfer, two years later, as a result of staff signposting me to this mortgage (the staff member who has worked for the bank for over 10 years telling me they should have signposted me back in 2015).

 

The bank didn't uphold my complaint, so i complained to the FoS. The FoS carried out an investigation and stated that i couldn't provide any proof that i had phoned 2/3 years ago to ask for the internal mortgage product transfer and they stated that the bank had no record of the call. The FoS investigation was very quick and only took a few weeks, despite submitting to them a large amount of information.

 

Unhappy, at the thoroughness and response of the FoS, i decided to submit an SAR to the business and ask them for all notes and recordings of my calls since 2015. As a result i have discovered the call i made in early 2015, asking to do an internal core product transfer. I have also discovered the phone calls where two separate advisers signposted me to other mortgage products, including them telling me that i should have been signposted to one of there other mortgage products.

 

I have submitted this information to the FoS Adjudicator, and asked for his decision to be appealed with an Ombudsman. The Adjudicator is belligerent during our communications and states that he won't pass it to an Ombudsman, until he examines the further evidence i have provided him. In there last communication, the Adjudicator stated that just because i have found this information, doesn't mean he will change his view and decision.

 

It's been over two weeks since i submitted my additional evidence to the Adjudicator, who advised he was going back to the bank. I haven't heard anything back as of yet. I would suggest the bank are probably embarrassed by the fact that i have carried out my own investigation and found the evidence i believe proves my case.

 

The Adjudicator seems to be fairly on the side of the business and i have questioned the depth and thoroughness of there investigation. I supplied them with all of the phone calls i made to the bank over 2/3 years and they apparently couldn't find any trace or evidence of them, yet when i submit an SAR, i get given them on discs.

 

The resolution i am looking for, is for the bank to put me back in the position i would have been, had they given me the correct and appropriate information, when i tried to transfer my mortgage, back in 2015.

 

Any advice would be much appreciated please?

 

Can i ask the Adjudicator to submit my complaint to an Ombudsman as i don't believe that they have carried out a fair, transparent or thorough investigation and that i have sourced all the evidence to prove my case?

 

What about referring this to the Independent Assessor?

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Surely you need to wait for the Adjudicator's response to the new evidence?.

Firstly they might now agree with you (the advice that "just because i have found this information, doesn't mean he will change his view and decision" doesn't mean that he won't change his view, just that he might not!)

If he doesn't change his view, then ask for it to be escalated to the Ombudsman proper.

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