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    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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    • Good afternoon, I am writing because I am very frustrated. I received a parking fine from MET Parking Services Ltd , ( Southgate park Stansted CM24 1PY) . We stopped for a quick meal in Mcdonalds and were there fir around 30 mins. We always do this after flights and never received a parking fine before.  Reason: The vehicle left in Southgate car park without payment made for parking and the occupants southgate premises. they took some pictures of us leaving the car. i did not try and appeal it yet as I came across many forums that this is a scam and I should leave it. But I keep getting threatening letters.  Incident happened : 23/10/2023 I did contact Mcdonalds and they said this:  Joylyn (McDonald’s Customer Services) 5 Apr 2024, 12:05 BST Dear Laura, Thank you for contacting McDonald’s Customer Services. I’m sorry to hear that you have received a Parking Charge Notice following your visit to our Stansted restaurant.   We've introduced parking restrictions at some of our restaurants to make sure there are always parking spaces available for customers.   We appreciate that some visits such as birthday parties or large group visits might take longer and the parking restrictions aren't intended to stop this. If you think your stay will exceed the stated maximum parking time then please speak to a manager in advance.   Your number plate is scanned by our Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system when you enter our car park, and then again when you leave. If you have overstayed the maximum time allowed, you will not be notified straight away- a Parking Charge Notice will be sent to you via the post.   If you feel that a Parking Charge Notice has been issued in error, please contact our approved contractors who issued the charge in order to appeal the charge. Unfortunately McDonald's are unable to revoke parking tickets- the outcome of the appeal is final and cannot be overturned by McDonald’s.   Many thanks for taking the time to contact McDonald’s Customer Services.   Can someone please help me out and suggest what I should do next?  Thank you 
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I sent 2 identical parcels with UPS on parcel2go.com.

 

Each parcel contained 2 car alloy wheels.

 

Packaging used was strong cardboard box, with extra cardboard, thick paper scrunches and foam separating and surrounding the wheels inside - I’ve sent Wheels all over the world with this exact packaging in these exact strong boxes.

 

The wheels arrived with 2 massively buckled. To do this damage while driving you’d have to hit a kerb head on at a pretty great speed... or drop the parcels from a substantial height, straight onto the rim edge.

 

The boxes were split where they’d been dropped.

 

The damage is SEVERE structural damage, that could only have been sustained by a great impact, ie a very high drop.

 

Raised a claim, parcel2go come back 2 weeks later saying the packaging was insufficient as there was no internal bubble wrap.

 

I explained that internal packaging is irrelevant as the impact was so severe that no amount of bubble wrap would have prevented that damage due to the couriers negligence.

 

I have told them there WAS internal packing too but regardless such severe structural damage to such a strong item could only have come from negligence.

 

They have made some ridiculous suggestions such as the damage occurred from the normal bumps of transit, then later said that the courier did not cause the damage.

 

They simply don’t answer my questions and just repeat themselves with statements lacking in any common sense or understanding of the physical forces it takes to smash a strong aluminium wheel - NOT normal scuffs and bumps of transit.

 

No doubt the courier has been negligent here, they should not drop parcels this hard. Talking to parcel2go.com is going nowhere, their argument is wrong and defies physics.

 

What should I do next? Proving negligence is easy - the resultant damage could simply not have been caused without it. The force required to bend the rim to such an extent is quite easily quantifiable, many kiloNewtons... not to be expected in careful transit/handling.

 

Totally unacceptable!

 

Very grateful for any advice. And beware, consumers!

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the you need to put this to them formally in writing and tell them what you expect them to do, namely compensate you for your loss as the damage was not caused by normal activity but by negligence on their part and so outside the scope of their contractual constraints. Tell the the cost you wish to recover and let them know that you will use civil procedure to recover your losses that resulted from their tort

 

If you can calculate the force required to damage the rim ( approx as packaging was involved so assume that force applied was greater) then tell them this as well. If the forces required to bend the rim are very great compared to a freefall drop then that shows that the parcel has been thrown with condsiderable force and such actions can only be deliberate even if the damage wasnt. So damage caused by the driver braking hard is still their responsibility as his driving style is clearly to blame unless they can show he had to brake hard becaue of someone else's actions and that menas you need to see the dashcam evidence to support this explanation.

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Hey ericsbro thanks for the reply.

 

Update: parcel2go.com has just accepted the claim “as goodwill”, which is a step forward, but they are only offering the basic cover as I didn’t pay for extra insurance.

 

Now, a couple of things:

 

1. Can I reasonably ask for more based on the undoubted negligence of the courier? I was happy with basic cover as the wheels are very strong and well packed, so the only possible damage if the courier acts with care as they are supposed to would be minor cosmetic damage which the basic cover would likely cover.

 

2. I believe parcel2go.com may be profiting from this situation as I think UPS offer £50 per parcel as standard, so if parcel2go were to only give you £20 and keep £30... clearly not fair, but can they do that?!

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what is the value of the damage? Who did you agree a contract with? If with parcel2 go it matters not what they get from UPS as long as you get your money from them. Now your argument is about a common law tort rather than a contractual issue so again what their terms say arent really relevant. As they have accepted they have a case to answer (regardless of the goodwill bit) the you need to be clear what is acceptable to you to discontinue your recovery of your losses. If they offer £30 for a £100 wheel I wouldnt be accepting that even if they say that UPS wont give them more. They decided on who they gave the job to, not you.

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Hi I think the cost of repair is going to be around £250, the value of the wheels is well over £1000 and the used sale price was £700.

 

Contract is with parcel2go.com.

 

They have thus far offered £20 compensation plus refund of the original parcels price. So nowhere near the damage value.

 

I’ve looked at the civil procedure so thinking a clear letter before action now. Can I do it by email or MUST it be all by letter post?

 

Cheers ericsbro and I welcome anyone else to chime in!

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