I received a letter from Northampton County Court over an alleged bus lane infringement in which the amount was £195 made payable to Harrow Council,

the date of the alleged offence was 06/03/2015 at 11.28.

I had never received any correspondence from Harrow Council about this ticket,

I had to do a notice to owner to send it back to it's original PNC.

Now the bus lane in question I know very well and have done for almost twenty years,

the end of the bus lane you can enter two lanes ,

the right hand side to go up towards Harrow on the Hill, or Roxeth Hill,

the left hand side to go straight up or turn left,

now what happens is there is a box junction so the right hand side stops until you can go on,

I crossed the bus lane to go left I believe but because of the length of time I can not remember what I was doing that day.

The reg is correct, you can clearly see the make of the car on the photo

yet on the part of the form where it has Vehicle make,

it has unknown which is strange.

Now I thought you were allow a certain distance to enter the bus lane towards the end of it to turn left, I

may be wrong,

do I have a leg to stand on to appeal,

now there is one photo and you have to pay £10 if you want to view any additional photos on line,

it's free if you go down to their office.

I had to do a notice to owner to send it back to it's original PNC.

Have I translated this correctly? You made a witness statement which reversed the process back to the PCN?

Does your V5C have you as the registered keeper at your current address?

And have you lived there since before March 2015?

Sorry,

as I didn't receive anything to do with the alleged bus lane infringement,

I had to go down to a County Court to have my form witnessed by a clerk to send back the form in which I ticked notice to owner to Northampton County Court,

it would go back to the original ticket in which you have the option to pay the reduced fee,

yes the car was mine before the date,

and yes the V5C has me as the registered keeper

 

and yes the V5C has me as the registered keeper

At your current address which has not changed since March 2015?

In which case you appeal that the pcn has been served out of time. Bus lane pcn's must be served within 28 days of the contravention

I have lived at my address for almost eighteen years, so just to confirm, I can based my appeal on the fact the PNC was served out of time, if so I will go ahead

Correct.

Why would you get a letter from Northampton County Court if you had no contact with the Council? You would only hear from the Court in response to a statutary declaration made in response to an order for recovery from the Council?? Are you saying what you got was an Order for recovery so you then made a statutary declaration and ot has now reverted back to the PCN stage?

I have received confirmation from Harrow Council that my attempt to have the bus lane infringement has been rejected and the reason is as follows.

Whilst I acknowledge that the contravention occurred in 2015, there are no time constraints with how long it takes between the service of the charge certificate and the order for recovery form being sent to you.

This is due to the council having to pay to register the debt with the Traffic Enforcement Centre(TEC) and at the time of the service, the council were unable to register the debt due to cuts. The PCN was correctly issued.

Is this worth appealing and if so on what grounds, the excuse seems a little far fetched

How could this be possible?

How could anyone remember what they were doing 3 years ago and who was driving the car?

Can the experts please confirm that it's ok to do this?

I never received any contact from Harrow Council regarding the bus lane infringement til I got the letter from Northampton County Court, when I sent back that I had never received any correspondence from Harrow Council, I then told I had to go to a county court to get my id checked and signed and then sent back to Northampton and changed back to the first stage of the offence

Just got the news today that my case has been closed and I don't have to pay the ticket

well done

poss expand on the finer details so anyone with the same issue knows what to do?

dx

please consider donating...

Have try donating twice,

and each time, my card is not accepted, I will try again.

As for the Infringement, I always thought their excuses were lame,

their excuse about budget cuts which prevented sending the letter out didn't make sense,

I kept pushing as to why three years was acceptable to receive a fine,

in the end I believe they gave up,

also on double checking the photos of my car I realise I was allowed three car lengths to enter the bus lane in order to turn left,

I put that in my letter,

I may be wrong about that,

but I'm sure I read that before and used in a similar ticket eight years ago when driving my lorry

Have tried again to donate using my card, but the message We are sorry your first attempt didn't work out this could be a temporary glitch keeps coming up