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    Default G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Hi all,
    A good friend of mine has received a lettericon from G24 asking for £100 for stopping at a car park for 199 minutes when the free parking was only for 120 minutes.

    Please can I ask what he should do?

    So far, his other half wants to pay it to 'get it out of the way' but, fair play to him, he is holding firm until he gets advice....so here I am

    Please help if you can.....


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Apologies. I now have done.

    Hi all,
    A good friend of mine has received a lettericon from G24 asking for £100 for stopping at a car park for 199 minutes when the free parking was only for 120 minutes.

    Please can I ask what he should do?

    So far, his other half wants to pay it to 'get it out of the way' but, fair play to him, he is holding firm until he gets advice....so here I am


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    urh?

    didn't ask you to start a new threadicon in another forum

    can you please answer the questions in that link
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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Apologies, I clicked on your link, seen this: 'If this is a PENALTY charge notice , please click HERE', did so and it took me to a new sub-forum so I posted there?


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    1 Date of the infringement[s]
    27 Dec 2017

    2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]
    3 Jan 2018

    3 Date received
    5 Jan 2017

    4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?]
    Not specifically section 4, just 'The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012'

    5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?
    Yes

    6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]
    No

    Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up
    N/A

    7 Who is the parking company?
    G24

    8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]
    Toys R' Us, Meole Brace Retail Park, Hereford Road, Shrewsbury SY3 9NB

    For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.
    Appeals: IAS
    For complaints: IPC


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    as the trade association these lot belong to is the IPC it isnt worth appealing
    the easiest way to fight this is to look at the offer made by the signage.

    For that we need to see it
    get them to take pictures and also tell us exactly what the claim is for.
    Ideally post up the NTK with personal details redacted so name address car reg their bard codes etc removed.

    Now many parking co's get the wording of the NTK wrong or even fail to name the land the event supposedly happened at so lots of scope to pick holes.

    Another thing that would be useful would be to ask the local council planning dept if there was any time limit for customer parking on the planning application or consent.

    Many of these retail developments have that stipulated so no parking co or even the landowner can change it without going back to the council and putting in another planning application.


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Hi
    What a site! Three different parking companies work at the site. UKPC, Horizon and G24. I cannot zoom into the pictures of the signs at the store so a return trip is needed to get some close ups of the signs.

    A little thinking outside of the box here. The signs say 'Customer Parking Only' What would happen if he wasn't an actual customer. Would he then be a trespasser??

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

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    Ok, as the trade association these lot belong to is the IPC it isnt worth appealing so the easiest way to fight this is to look at the offer made by the signage. For that we need to see it so get them to take pictures and also tell us exactly what the claim is for. Ideally post up the NTK with personal details redacted so name address car reg their bard codes etc removed. Now many parking co's get the wording of the NTK wrong or even fail to name the land the event supposedly happened at so lots of scope to pick holes.
    Another thing that would be useful would be to ask the local council planning dept if there was any time limit for customer parking on the planning application or consent. Many of these retail developments have that stipulated so no parking co or even the landowner can change it without going back to the council and putting in another planning application.
    Brilliant stuff, thank you.
    Just to clarify, then you say Ďget them to take picturesí, you and obviously mean my friend to take pictures of the sign?


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Update: itís 25 miles away from where I live but I just happen to be passing there tomorrow. Any other photos I need to take whilst Iím there, such as wider area, etc?


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Photos of the wording on the signs and then photos of the sign positions in relation to the site - can they be seen before entering etc.

    Was it a windscreen notice or a camera capture?


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Ideally, pictures from the road showing any (and all) entrance signage, from different angles, and if you can, some kind of 'drivers eye view' would be very useful.

    Then have a wander around the car park taking pictures of all signage that's dotted around the car park. With close-ups so that we can zoom in and read all the text.

    You can almost guarantee that if multiple parking companies are operating on the site, the signage is going to be confusing to the extreme, and this can only serve to help your case.

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Just brilliant!!!
    In reply - it was a letter through the post.


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Having had a look at the site on Google street view (although I don't know when those images were taken)... All of the signage I can make out relates to UKPC. So I can't quite work out how G24 come in to it.

    Also, it's free parking, so why are there "Ringo, pay to park" signs all over the place?

    UKPC are BPA (AOS) members, and G24 IPC (AOS) members. So there's a real 'hotch-potch' of problems with this site that only clear, up to date images can sort out.

    If the signage is still the same, I don't think that there's going to be too much problem with beating these clowns at their own game.

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Thank you all, I will take pics shortly....I can't wait )

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Thank you for clarifying.

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Is the scan of the edited letter showing to you guys? It's not for me....


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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

    Which post is it in, craigten?

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    Default Re: G24 ANPR CPCN: overstay, Toys.R.Us Meole Brace Shrewsbury

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