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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
    • Well done on reading the other threads. If ECP haven't got the guts to do court then there is no reason to pay them. From other threads there is a 35-minute free stay after which you need to pay, with the signs hidden where no-one will read them.  Which probably explains why ECP threaten this & threaten that, but in the end daren't do court. As for your employer - well you can out yourself as the driver to ECP so the hamster bedding will arrive at yours.  Get your employer to do that using the e-mail address under Appeals and Transfer Of Liability.  
    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

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I am asking this for my partner having read numerous posts on the subject

i would just like a bit of advice on the direction she should take

 

She has been with Gregory for about 12 years as far as she can remember,

she has paid off most of her debts and is not looking to dodge any debts she still has to pay off

 

Last week she received a call for her annual review she currently pays £35 per week and has never missed a payment

 

During the annual review (which i told her she was not obligated to do )

she told them that her financial circumstances had not changed

they interrogated her and came to the conclusion that they could no longer help her as she couldn't afford the payments that she had been making

 

This was mainly because she refused to include both my income and her adult sons income into the equation as none of the debts are anything to do with us

the position she is in now is that she has four debts totalling £2300 which i can pay off in full

 

The highest being about £900 the lowest £150

at present i cant be more accurate a

s i have not got the information to hand

i think that the money is owed to

Next,Santander and a DCA i cant remember the other one

 

What i need advice on is should she

 

A Contact Gregory pennington and ask for account numbers and contact details

B Wait for the companies that she owes the debts to contact her

 

If she takes option B will this affect her credit file as nothing is showing on it at present

 

Im hoping that if we deal with the creditors direct that i can secure a discount having never done this before what sort of discount should i ask for

Thanks in advance

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oh god 12yrs with greedy pennys

whereby most her money went on paying their fees

 

I bet 90% of her debts weren't even owed or were unenforceable anyway

as the greedy pennys never ever do any checks

just blindly recommend paying as they get a cut of her payments going out too back from each creditor.

 

just stop paying them

send GP an sar to get all the details.

 

the debts cant comeback on her credit file

as they would have been defaulted years ago and already been removed.

 

oh and when you do get the info

don't go blindly paying anyone

come back here

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 4 weeks later...

this is the information she has received from greg pennington

 

National collections office £36 per month balance £940

Debt managers (scotland) £6 per month balance £174 (Next LTD)

National collections office £9 per month balance £255

Cabot Fianancial services £18 per month balance £532 (MBNA Credit card)

Santander UK £23 per month balance £558

 

I wrote earlier that she has paid off these debts for many years at £140 pm

which means that gp were taking £48 for passing the money on

but they served a purpose

 

we all know that people react differently to money issues so what has happened in the past regarding gp has happened

 

What we need to know is the best way forward

 

Cabot (suprise suprise) and Debt managers Scotland are the first out of the woodwork a letter was received yesterday ,

from there actions i would assume these are the two dodgy ones as they have already started the ball rolling to try to extract money from her

 

Just in case they start threatening stuff

can any of the debts have interest added by the current holders of the debt as all interest and charges were frozen at the outset

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sent them each a CCA request. [cabot, debt managers]

 

who the beep are National collections office ?

and what are the debt types

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Silly me

Its NCO

A powerless DCA

 

Can we have the debt types and original creditors please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry for the delay my previous post are about all the details we have I am trying to deal with them as the letters arrive so far only Cabot and national collections have contacted her

 

Cabot were sent a CCA request they have sent the postal order back and said they will endeavour to locate the information required but it may take more than 12 days they also

 

offered a discount on the outstanding amount of approximately £100

they also want her to ring and discuss with her where the funds are coming from and that priority bills are up to date if she was able to accept the offer

 

My thoughts are that they just want to obtain a phone contact so that they can apply pressure on her

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you NEVER EVER RING A FLEECING DCA OR THEIR DOGS.

 

no CCA = NO pay

and even then who says its enforceable!!

 

Can we have the debt types and original creditors please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok im dealing with them as they come in the Cabot one is a credit card MBNA

 

The national collections one is a Next store card

 

Santander is a unsecured bank loan

 

I think the other National collections if littlewoods

 

At present I'm just in contact with Cabot by letter and email

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good one cash cow account removed

 

hows the sar to greedy penny's doing?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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GP are collating all the paperwork which in their words is a very time consuming task how long do they have to complete the task

 

Also my thoughts are that the other debts won't have the relevant documents to enforce them

 

At present I'm just waiting for the other creditors to contact her but they do seem rather shy at present which is surprising

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40 days if you sent them a SAR??

 

The reason why they're ''shy'' is because they know they've been rumbled, and will no longer be getting their ill gotten gains.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Still heard nothing from debt managers who i sent a cca request which was a Next card outstanding balance of £168

 

However I now have a letter from a company called CSL ( credit security ) who say they have been instructed to claim the debt

 

Should I send these a prove it letter as it looks like its been sold on

 

If that's the case I doubt whether there's a valid CCA

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No send them nothing....... When did you send the CCA request?

 

TBH a pittance amount under 200 quid is pocket money.

 

I wouldn't waste my time chasing DCA's and doing their work for them.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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No CCA No pay.

 

If they're dumb enough to flog it on to another clueless dimwit then that's not your issue.

 

You simply ignore them for the time being.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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CSL/debt managers ...same lot!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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makes you think they have one of what?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Trying to make you think they have A signed credit agreement

 

To me it just seems like a waste of time if they havnt got a CCA

 

whats the point of pretending to be another company at the end of the day

 

they won't be able to produce one either

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do you think powerless dca's did anything else but spoof people :lol: that's all they can try and do

 

sadly 99% of the general population fall for their powerless threats.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Quick update received reply from credit security Ltd reference CCA request

 

We are unable to action the enclosed as we are no longer instructed in this matter

Please forward all payments to debt managers --Next

We apologise for the inconvenience

They have returned the postal order

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