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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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Hi

I took out a door step loan in 10/2010 due to my younger sister having a stroke

I defaulted in the same year

I have not paid or recognised this debt since

 

in 2014 it was assigned to lowell who marked it on my credit file as a new debt.

 

Today I received a letter saying despite previous letters I have not made an agreement

they are giving me 30 days notice before court

have included a load of paperwork for me to fill out about financial situation other debts and am I seeking debt help or who I plan to pay.

 

They say that because they took over the debt in 2014 the six year rule started when the took over the debt.

The original debt no-one appears on my credit file as it went statute barred either the end of 2016 or early 2017.

 

How do I fight this if it comes to court

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" I have not paid or recognised this debt since in 2014 "

 

Then it wont be statute barred until 2020 ? Irrespective of when they bought the debt.

 

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I have not made any payment or acknowledged the debt since Jan 2011

I mentioned that I have had no contact with lowell since they took over the debt in 2014

 

the debt was first generated in 2010 not 2014

this is when lowell took over the debt claiming it is a new debt and showing it on my file from that date

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Ahh you didnt mention 2011 in your initial post..then yes its statute barred this year...subject to the month of your last payment.

 

Was there a default showing on your file before it was assigned to Lowell ?

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I gather this is a provident doorstepper loan?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The debt is so old it no longer appears on my credit file

it was still on their mid year so it must of come off some time in July or August 2017

 

Hi dx100uk yes this is provident

I was not always in when she called because I was traveling to London to see my sister

 

when I did pay she didn't always put it in my book or she did not have her paperwork with her

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They say that because they took over the debt in 2014 the six year rule started when the took over the debt.

 

This is precisely the sort of BS they tell you when you call them ! That's why you never should!

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so its also dropped off your credit file as the default has met its 6th birthday

are you saying its on there under lowells name still now?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi

I took out a door step loan in 10/2010 due to my younger sister having a stroke

I defaulted in the same year

I have not paid or recognised this debt since

 

in 2014 it was assigned to lowell who marked it on my credit file as a new debt.

 

Today I received a letter saying despite previous letters I have not made an agreement

they are giving me 30 days notice before court

have included a load of paperwork for me to fill out about financial situation other debts and am I seeking debt help or who I plan to pay.

 

They say that because they took over the debt in 2014 the six year rule started when the took over the debt.

The original debt no-one appears on my credit file as it went statute barred either the end of 2016 or early 2017.

 

How do I fight this if it comes to court

 

“They say that because they took over the debt in 2014 the six year rule started when the took over the debt. ”

Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they!

 

I wouldn’t send back the forms they want you to complete.

I’d send ONE letter stating it is statute barred, and the date they took over the account is irrelevant, as it is the original default that created a previous potential cause of action (that has now become statute barred).

 

How do you fight it in court?

Well, they’d be daft to try Court, but if they did : you use that exact same position : statute barred. Date not reset by assignment / sale.

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Today I received a letter saying despite previous letters I have not made an agreement

they are giving me 30 days notice before court

have included a load of paperwork for me to fill out about financial situation other debts and am I seeking debt help or who I plan to pay.

 

 

 

How do I fight this if it comes to court

have they then issued a proper letter before claim, compliant with the new debt pre action protocol?

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Lowlifes talking utter rubbish AGAIN!!!

 

Ignore them, it's SB end of, IF they're stupid enough then they'll continue, and you can laugh at them in court whilst the judge is awarding you costs.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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have they then issued a proper letter before claim, compliant with the new debt pre action protocol?

 

Here are the new rules Ford refers to... https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/pdf/protocols/pre-action-protocol-for-debt-claims.pdf

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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broken link

 

see here re the protocol

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?481827-The-Pre-Action-Protocol-for-Debt-Claims-is-made-by-the-Master-of-the-Rolls-as-Head-of-Civil-Justice.-1st-Oct-2017

 

was wondering if it was a letter before claim as OP said they had been given '30 days notice' of court (30 days being stipulated in the protocol)

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Hi All

 

Sorry i have not replyed to anyone on this bought it.

 

i spoke to them today telling them to withdraw the claim but they say that under the law the clock for statute bar did not start untill 2013 when they say i made a payment of £10 to the origanal debt just before they bought it this i did not do.

 

i have checked my credit file again and this bill is no longer on my file and i thought things do not come of untill 6 years after a defult notice or last payment.

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what

never ever ever speak to a fleecing powerless dca over the phone

they ARE NOT BAILIFFS

and have

ZERO LEGAL POWERS!!.

 

you have received a new pre action protocol pack

 

you must reply to it!!

 

read here

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?481827-The-Pre-Action-Protocol-for-Debt-Claims-is-made-by-the-Master-of-the-Rolls-as-Head-of-Civil-Justice.-1st-Oct-2017

and reply as per the last post on that thread.

 

was this a provident loan?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi DX100UK

 

This was a provident loan.

 

not sure if I received the pack you're on about

I will scan what they sent me,

 

it was asking if I agreed I owed the money

or if I only agreed with part of the debt

 

it also asked for an income brake down.

 

the first page of the letter said that if I did not fill out the form it could lead to court action there was no where on the form to say I dispute the whole amount.

 

 

I received a court claim this morning filed through the Northampton central clearing.

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ok well forget about all that's gone before if you've now a court claimform.

 

can you complete this please:

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?419198-You-have-received-a-Claim-What-you-need-to-do.-**UPDATED-2016**(1-Viewing)-nbsp

 

thread moved to legals

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have just read the link and

I did receive the pack

but thought they were just trying to get me to admit to the debt.

 

as I had no idea of the change to the before court rules

 

I also object most strongly to filing out forms asking about my income and expense as this is none of Lowells business

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well forget about all that now its immaterial - they've issued a court claim.

 

get that link it post 20 done please

time is of the essence now

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have sent The Letter to Lowell

 

they sent me back notice of assignment to them and told me that they will contact original creditor for other paperwork.

 

i will be filing my defence tomorrow saying that the debt is statute barred and should not be before the court

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cant help you without the correct info

PLEASE!! complete this link

posting the Q&A back here

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Name of the Claimant ? Lowell portfolio Ltd

 

Date of issue – 21/11/2017

 

 

What is the claim for –

 

1) The defendant entered into a consumer credit act 1974 regulated agreement with provident personal credit linmited under account reference ... ('the Agreement')

2) The Defendant failed to maintain the required payments and arrears began to accrue.

3) the Agreement was later assigned to the claimant on 29/08/2014 and notice was given to the defendant.

4) Dispite repeated requests for payment the Sum of £257.50 remains outstanding

 

And the claimant claims the said sum of

a)£257.50

b) interest pursuant to s69 county courts act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue.

accruing at a daily rate 0f £0.056 but not limited to one year, Being £20.60

c) Costs

 

What is the value of the claim? £353.10

Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Doorstep Loan

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? 2010

 

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Lowell Protfolio 1

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Yes

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Cant Remember

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? yes

Why did you cease payments? A mixture of a family member dying and payment dispute

 

What was the date of your last payment? Dec 2010

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Yes I was not sure all the payments I was making were being registered

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No

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