hi,

very odd situation.

last night i emptied alot of rubbish in 4 black bags from the shed.

folding chair, few wood handles for spade and broomstick, dinner plates, curtains.

this mornig everything was gone. including the black bags with alot of old letters etc.

about 30 minutes ago some dude with council clothing came and said he went through the black bags, found my letters and someone from the council will be in touch for fly tipping.

i said i had the rubbish here, in my drive way. often people take rubbish espically old pc, monitors or metal items.

i said on saturday or sunday we were going to visit the depot as i have done 4 times last week for household rubbish.

he said he cant say much however i was going to get fined. so i asked where did you find my items. he said on next road by a tree.

Right on the main road. i said i had one black bag with letters etc however rest of the items are not mine. as he metioned tables, chairs, matress, bed etc.

he said he dose not know but it was his duty to tell me.

i am confused and angry. i think whats happned is some people took all my stuff asumming it was something they could sue, saw the bag and realised old letters and dumped it.

i asked him if he saw a chair or broomsticks or old pc box and he said no.

i am confused. what shall i do. wait for the council to get in tocuh?

Ali

Phone the Police on the local number 101 and report it as a theft, obtaining a crime reference number. Provide the councils enforcement team with the crime reference number and explain what happened.

If you do that, then there should not be any penalty applied. The Police won't investigate, but will note what happened.

Never put any paperwork in your bins that contains your name and address details. Not even the advertising and charity letters with your address. You should burn or shred everything that might be found later in a pile of rubbish somewhere. You have no comtrol over your rubbish once you put it out.

Perfect advice philmycoke.

People do take bin bags from people's house to look for personal data they can steal.

It happened to me a few years ago.

I reported it to Police (online crime reporting website).

A police officer rang me, I explained I didn't care a monkeys about the rubbish

but if it turned up somewhere I didn't want to be accused of fly tipping.

He understood, said rather than give me a formal crime number (I think he didn't want this on local crime statistics!) he gave me a different reference number I could use if there was ever any come back. There wasn't in my case. Yours is a bit different as you've already had council round but follow uncleb's advice anyway. Come back and tell us what happens next, in the meantime make make a written note to yourself - and sign and date it - of what happened and your conversation with the council officer in case they take it further. Contrary to what they implied merely finding your rubbish somewhere is not sufficient for a court to find you guilty of flytipping. They have to show you put it there!

Ever since then we have shredded absolutely everything, all the junk mail envelopes, even the stuff just addressed to 'the occupier (although my OH thinks that's probably unnecessary .... )

Called the police got the REF and she said the council will stop there, she fell short that they need to prove i put it there in middle of day on the busy road along with maybe few beds and wardrobes.

What shall i do now? i mean to protect myself?

all we were going to do was pick the black bags up. into the car, with grass and few wooden pieces from the fense and go to the depot pay £25 and dump it into 3 containers. 1 for paper, 1 for wood and 1 for metals.

Ali

The point is that you were subject to a criminal act i.e theft. You have reported this theft. You cannot be held responsible for your stolen property being dumped by the thieves who took it.

Just provide the council with the Police reference number and a brief explanation of what happened.

The council should them drop the matter.

thanmk you. i am sure council man is not getting to use my details, however now i am scared. oh god!

ummm is there something i can do now?

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Andy

thanmk you. i am sure council man is not getting to use my details, however now i am scared. oh god!

 

ummm is there something i can do now?

Not sure why you are worrying, unless you have done something wrong.

Have you done something wrong here, that deserves the council taking you to court ?

Do you deserve to be fined for fly tipping ?

If not, then write to the council with the police reference number and a brief explanation.

people nick the bags looking for scrap metal, charity donations that can be sold at a car boot etc so not that unusual. Council have presumably found the bags with contents spilt all over the place elsewhere and have traced it back to you by the letters etc.

Here is a lesson for you. Never put anything with your name and address in the bin, always shred it, even old envelopes with nothing in go in the shredder. As Ethel says someone can use this to get a mobile phone contract payday loan etc and that would give you even more grief.

As for council man not using your details, you can bet they will, give any public official a law to allow them to do something and they will always exceed that authority so you do need to report the theft and the when the council start chasing you there will be a response that they cant ignore.