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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
    • Thanks for the reply dubai 50 - if the statute is 10 years it has long passed - if it is 15 years i havea few months left. i shall ignore until it gets serious  An update - - I sent the letter to the bank in Dubai ( I did get delivery confirmation from Royal Mail)   - I have moved to a new address ( this is the address i gave to the bank in dubai)  - IDR are continuing to send Letters to the old address, which leads me to believe they are not in contact with the bank at all. - i have not replied to any correspondence digital or hard as they are non threatening ( as of yet).        
    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
    • So what    Why ? Consent Order/ Confidentiality ? This would be be invaluable to followers of your topic.  
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that is the joys of contracts, if they dont have an obligation in their original offer of work then they cant claim one now. Counterclaims can also get a full costs order against the person making it if that claim is seen as just a method of trying to dissuade the claimany form continuing rather than actually having any merits. In your case I wouild say that is not an automatic assumption so prepare your evidence on the assumption all ths muck will be raked over

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He is reluctant to proceed now as he says they will do ANYTHING to save a few £££!

 

Looking back through this thread, my son does not appear to have ever had anything other than a verbal contract with the construction company. The Exchequer people act as an agency to pay sub-contractors, and I am not 100% sure that we shouldn't be suing them! I'm going to phone them tomorrow......

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You miss the poinmt, if thye counterclaim it will look like an act of revenge so that would be the best thing to happen under the circumstances as your son would get a costs order as a matter of course.

Contracts can be verbal, the time he was there shows the merits of their rants and do you seriously think that they would be "showing a clean pair of hands" if they di try and use these points in a defence.

 

To me it looks like so many other problems raised on this site by well menaing relatives of friends. the person who is suffering the wrong cant be bothered to do the donkey work themselves for whatever reason and we end up wasting our time and effort. If he wants to keep having muck shovelled on him then that is up to him but bear in mind, if the claim has been issued they will come after him for wasted costs if he then drops the matter because he cant be bothered to go through with it.

The agency doesnt employ him, they are just a payment gateway. By all means name both to begin with but not them on their own. Think about what paid work is and you will see that it is the building co who is the meployer, they decide the hours the where and what is done etc and can say dont come in towmorrow, your are not wanted

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Too much story keep it factual to what you are claiming for.....you can particularise later in the process.

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part07

 

See 16.2 in the following...

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16#16.2

 

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Too much story keep it factual to what you are claiming for.....you can particularise later in the process.

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part07

 

See 16.2 in the following...

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16#16.2

 

Regards

 

Andy

 

Thank you Andy, you're not referring to my revised POC in post 24 though are you?

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Thank you Andy, you're not referring to my revised POC in post 24 though are you?

 

Yes

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Its fine now...when I last looked yesterday it was 6 Paragraphs

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Possibly due to the size of the print, I have now found a self employed contract for services.......

 

4th line down reads "You are obliged to correct any defective work in your own time without payment". My son is still adamant his work was without fault, although is still adamant that the construction co. would go all out to damage him for spite.

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That would ony apply if any substandard work was pointed out to him at the time. Inventing a snag list as long as a motorway after the event isnt going to impress anyone.

Dont forget, judges see hundreds of claims a year covering just about any conceivable situation. they can smell bull**** a mile away so a vindictive response will not go down well. If your son is being honest then that will come across in his answesr to questions. any smarta*** or evasive answers will cause the judeg to consider whether the application of the truth to other areas of the case is an issue. Likewise, if they strat going off on one then the same thought will cross the judges mind as I have laid out here. unreasonable or vindictive behaviour equals a hefty costs order but we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

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