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hi guys,

 

I have an abandoned vehicle in my drive way from a tenant around 14 months ago.

 

He has been contacted about 12 times.

 

The car is 15 to 20 years old. In a very bad situation of disrepair. All windows were broken, tyres flat etc.

 

I called the police and car removal people. No one knows what can be done.

 

Anyone here knows what can be done?

 

Ali

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its on your property?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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He has been contacted about 12 times.

 

Successfully contactable? Or you tried 12 times without success?

 

Anyone here knows what can be done?

 

Yes, I do. I suspect others might, too.

 

There are "lawful" and less lawful options.

I doubt you can expect this site to give you the less lawful Ines....

It also depends on if they are contactable, and if the car is registered to your (or another) address ....

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give him 14 days

else you will scrap it.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I can't help with "by any means nessessary" : the site rules only allow posts advocating lawful acts.

 

It also depends on if ........ and if the car is registered to your (or another) address ....

 

I asked about where it is registered in case an option might later lead to a fine from DVLA (for the keeper) coming to your address.

 

If you don't help people to help you by answering relevant questions, and also are willing to use "any means" ..... I'm out.

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Pity you can't tow it to the street, then inform DVLA of an untaxed vehicle. Job done.

 

Until the bailiffs (OK, now enforcement officers) come a-knocking!

 

This is why I asked which address the vehicle is registered to.

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As per dx100uk

It is ex-T left-over goods so inform him (pref in writing) that unless removed within 14 days you will dispose of it to recover some of your estimated storage costs of £1/day since he vacated. Scrap value is whatever you can get for it (prob ~£50).

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i called the police, council, scrap yards. no one has an answer. i need log book and keys for most compnaies to remove it.

 

police said nothing to do with us, council said ONLY if its on the road or in a council estate.

 

i will get the reg and do some research. Even post it here AS there is no way in hell can that thing be worth £1 or more.

 

4 tyres + windows all gone + so much rubbish in it. We will try to call him and leave him a msg with proof as i record all my calls.

 

i do not have is forwarding adress however from his REG i might know some kind of address.

 

Ali

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I saw a very interesting article in my local paperlast week, apparently there are fellas that if you contact them will come round and lift metal rubbish free of charge!

 

Would I be wrong in thinking that if the car is not registered to the address and has been abandoned on Private property, the legal owner can dispose as he/she wishes?

 

*Legal owner - of the land.

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You need to find out on which address the car is registered.

 

I wonder if the dvla would disclose this information for an abandoned vehicle on your drive.

 

Common sense says yes, but with dvla everything is possible.

 

If it's registered at your address you might have trouble with the untaxed fine.

 

The car is not yours so you won't have to pay,

but it's still unpleasant to get people at the door asking for money.

 

If the car is not registered at your address, a big grinder and a diamond disc will make the metal easily taken away by the helpful scrap collectors.

 

Of course this is illegal and you shouldn't do it, but I doubt your ex tenant is keen to take this scrap back any time soon.

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Right. So the REG got removed incase it causes issue is fine.

 

Question is how do i remove the car?

 

police, council and scrap yards do not want to know!

 

it is honda CRV and all tyres are flat! it cant be pushed "on to the road"

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you have been told,

you give him 14 days written notice

(email, even text will do if you don't have a physical address)

 

then get a scrappy to remove it at your expense and you recover part of that expense from the salvage money.

 

In 14 days time it becomes your property for the purposes of the law.

 

No-one wants to know because you have been asking the wrong question

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Good find!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Except it is information for the LA, not the land owner, AND it explains why the LA can't currently act .......

 

Bu**er.

 

There are some quarters that will quote this as a requirement for the council to remove the vehicle, even if it is on private land....

 

section 3 of this act refers....

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/3

 

"...3 Removal of abandoned vehicles.

 

(1)Where it appears to a local authority that a motor vehicle in their area is abandoned without lawful authority on any land in the open air or on any other land forming part of a [F6highway][F6road], it shall be the duty of the authority, subject to the following provisions of this section, to remove the vehicle..."

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