Ok, thanks a lot man.

Ill get that sent now and keep you updated

But, isn't there a chance that this could escalate and I could be forced into paying the fine. What is it I should do then

 

How did i do that?

it is NOT A FINE

only court/police/council can issue FINES

you gave them your email address by replying to them by email when we said royal mail.

please don't think that ANY of these players have any legal powers whatsoever

they don't...

Hey guys, this is what they responded with

Many thanks for your email.

Unfortunately, as under the terms and conditions of your contractual agreement you have taken with GymEtc, we are unable to remove the administration charges on your account as they have be applied correctly due to your direct debit being cancelled.

The charge is £25.00.

One of the Terms of this agreement, which you have agreed to be bound by, is that "if you fail to pay any monies due under this agreement or if any Direct Debit is returned unpaid or any cheque is returned unpaid or if any other form of payment is not honoured for whatever reason, you shall pay us on demand fee of £25.00, which we require to cover our costs of seeking to pursue such payment from you."

May we confirm, £25.00 is the amount deemed by our directors as representative of our costs in dealing with the administration involved with a missed or returned payment.

When we submit for a payment by Direct Debit which is then returned, we are also charged by the bank. The charge also covers the costs we incur to reapply for the payment and the sending of letters to members.

The administration has been incurred due to the extra work involved to resubmit the payments, the accounting time it takes to process the return and reverse the transaction, the cost of sending a letter and assigning to the database.

Please see below for the link of your terms and conditions should you require to see them,

Please contact the HARLANDS HELPLINE ON 01444 449 166 before the 5th of October 2017 to clear the arrears and to avoid any further charges.

We trust you find this to be in order,

Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact our offices.

Office hours: Monday to Friday, 9am - 5pm

Yours sincerely,

Leeanne Bosman

Harlands

Ignore them. Totally. They've had their chance.

It's also the standard letter they send anyone that calls their bluff. And remember, just because they say its legit, doesnt mean it is in law. Its apenalty charge and unenforceable. Many peopel who have a membership dont realise this and blindly pay up. Know your rights, dont pay and you cut off their gravy train.

Hi DF,

Yes, you've made a reasonable offer which they 're too greedy to accept.

So now, you simply ignore their demands but keep us posted.

Hi guys, long time since I have had an update I hope you guys can still help me.

i recieved a letter today - 10/11/2017 from CRS.

The last time I had contact with anyone was on 16/09/2017 with harlands.

I just want this stuff to end and I though that it had since they hadnt made any contact for months.

Last time there was contact the fee stood at 50£ but as you can see it is now 141.50£ .

Here is a link to the image if the embedded one didnt work https: // imgur . com/a/uP2Mf

please post up as a PDF

read UPLOAD

but anyway you simply ignore

a DCA is NOT A BAILIFF

and has

NO SUCH LEGAL POWERS

but as you know anyway or should do by reading threads here and researching things

CRS are harlands anyway.

If I ignore wont they just keep upping the charge and sending me letters?

and?

Potentially receiveing more letters is a bit annoying but if there is no way they can enforce these charges and they ignored my last email then its fine.

You said they arent balifs and I have read they cant enforce these charges so all should be good.

Thanks for the help

bailiffs can NEVER EVER be involved in ANY DEBT

unless it been to a court and you lose.

Hi DF

We don't need to see any demand from Harlands/CRS - it can be ignored.

Just because they keep increasing the amounts does NOT make it any more "payable". Their tactic is to try to scare you so much you'll contact them and they'll then offer to "reduce" the amount you need to pay to make them leave you alone. Just ignore their silly attempts.

What folk need to remember is that Harlands/CRS make a percentage each month for collecting DD's for gyms. For this, they probably take 10% to 15%. So they'll make £1 or £1.50 a month collecting the ongoing monthly DD's.

Then look at what Harlands/CRS stand to make for one late or missed DD - £25 is what they charge.And the if you cancel in any manner they deem incorrect, they'll try to add on fees so they stand to make £100, £200, or even more from folk who cave in to their ridiculous demands.

Ignore but keep a log of all forms of contact from Harlands/CRS and the Zinc Group.