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    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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Hi,

I hired a builder to do some work in my flat. The final invoice he sent me was, by my calculations, way too high, so I sent him an email asking him for more details and could he please tie it back to the original quote, which he claimed is not possible. There were lots of emails exchanged, he sent me some revised figures, and the last invoice he sent me was closer to what I calculated I owe him. So I questioned him about that one final time (I mean, all he has to do was tie it back to the quote, I don't know why he can't do that), and he is now saying "Fine, pay what you think you owe me, and I'm going to issue you with another invoice for works that I didn't charge for."

Does he have the right to do that? If he has, is there some protection in the law that would stop him demanding, say, £1000 to put one shelf up? Can he charge me for the time spend in email exchanges regarding clarification about hist first invoice?

Is there a legal process that he has to follow to get me to pay?

Can I contest the invoice? Is there a legal process that I need to follow to contest it (I haven't received it yet).

Thanks in advance for any help.

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I assume that you obtained a quote and then added other jobs without agreeing a price.

Please confirm if this is correct.

Then, please list these extra jobs and how much he wants to charge, just to have an idea about how unreasonable the prices are.

Some jobs seem easy enough but carry a big price because of the equipment needed.

For example, drilling a 4 inch hole in a wall is easy enough and takes a few minutes, but the diamond core and clutched drill needed to do that are very expensive and builders need to get their money back overtime, so it's not unusual to charge up to £100 to fit a vent even though it only takes 15 minutes.

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No, that's not what happened. It's a bit more complicated than that. It literally is what I said. I could not make sense of his figures, I asked him for clarification, he was not willing or able to tie back his invoice to the quote (surely that's not an unreasonable thing to ask for????), there were lots of emails exchanges, he said I was being picky about the wording when I tried to quote some things he said, and he was trying - as a see it - to charge me for things that I shouldn't be charged for.

 

What I mean by that is this: I first got a quote that included a quoted amount to replace the kitchen floor with laminate or lino. I also asked him for a (separate) quote for putting down reclaimed wood flooring. This was sent to me with the words "I have added the cost of reclaimed flooring installation at the end", came in a document called something like "…including reclaimed floor installation", and clearly said ("kitchen: installation of reclaimed flooring"). So I thought that it was a quote for, you know, putting down reclaimed wood flooring.

 

Now in the end, I chose lino, and that's what got installed. So I thought that the quote for reclaimed wood would not be counted as part of the final cost, but he says that actually, he is counting it, because - he told me as part of the email exchange to clarify his figures - it's for lino flooring installation. This was quoted as (L) for the kitchen + (M) for the hallway and (N) for the bathroom, and L was a higher amount than the original amount quoted for lino. Since I thought this referred to reclaimed wood flooring, that made absolute sense to me. But apparently, no, it was for lino, and the higher cost for the kitchen is because it's a larger area, since it involves the hallway and the bathroom…which I would absolutely agree with if hallway and bathroom didn't carry their own cost. So, unless there's something blindingly obvious that I'm not seeing (which IS possible), that didn't make sense to me.

 

I can send you the long version if you'd like, it's not worth putting on line.

 

Anyway, we did agree in an amount, I've paid it, still have not received the additional invoice for works not charged for, and no idea what these will be.

 

I'm going to try and get legal advice tomorrow, just in case.

 

Anyway, thanks for replying. If/ when he does send the additional invoice, I'll update.

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