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Hi All,

 

Was on here some time ago (7 odd years) and received some incredible help. Sadly 2 years ago i fell into some issues and couldnt work at the time. Thus accumulating some debts.

 

One of them is a credit card with Halifax , approx £5500, that had been passed to Moorcroft. I have sent them a 'prove it' style letter

 

They have replied to me with 1 page which is a personal details page and 1 page which is the signed CCA, from Halifax (photocopies)

 

I am happy to settle this debt but want to know peoples advice, opinions and the best way about it. i do remember a fair bit and have been reading up. Seen the settlement letters, but also conscious the debt seems no longer with Halifax or is do Moorcroft just act on the clients behalf as opposed to buying the debt?

 

I aslso have 4 others than are with Capquest, but rather than making this post complicated, i'll post a new thread.

 

Thanking you all in advance again :)

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who are moorcraps client?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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upload

to ONE multipage PDF please

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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that's not a signed CCA [its for payment protection]

the sheet thay need is the reverse of that read it!

and the full T&C's are missing pages.

 

 

deal with Halifax cutout the powerless DCA .

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what part of stop sending pointless letter tennis are you not understanding?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well might not hurt as we'll them know the full history

then we can decide?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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or send arrows a CCA request?

 

you say debts...

 

lets resit and list them please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok so it looks like Arrow have my Halifax OD on 2 accounts, 1 is for £2000 and the other for £1000, i made another thread when you told me to.

 

This card i have posted about is still with halifax actually so ill post in the other thread i have for that

 

But to recap all my debts

 

Vanquis - £2000 (no contact or debtor letters)

Barclay card - £8000 (no contact or debtor letters)

Halifax OD - £1000 (now with Arrow /AIC)

Halifax OD - £2000 (now with Arrow /AIC)

Halifax CC - £5000 with Halifax

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Update: Re: this thread and the credit card with Halifax

 

Seems the letter has gone back to halifax as they have sent me a letter 'your up to date statement'. Strange so seems it has gone back to halifax from moorcroft. The letters print is quite poor quality so i googled the address and it brings us RosythDunfermline a debt recovery company (Recoveries, PO BOX 66, Rosyth, KY11 2WG), the number 08081450374 also refers to a debt collector.

 

As i requested my CCA and SAR i shall not be responding to this letter unless someone advises to

 

Thanks again

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Update/recap -

 

Sent CCA/SAR req to Halifax as above they couldn’t find a record and requested my full name address etc to locate me… i didn’t bother. Have just kept communication to to a minimum

 

CCA from DCA now Intrum, and as above DX100UK found that in post 7 “that's not a signed CCA [its for payment protection] the sheet they need is the reverse of that read it! and the full T&C's are missing pages”

 

DCA sent me PAP in march 2019, i replied standard PAP protocol as below.

They completely ignored, no contact until 24th Oct 2020.

 

They have again sent PAP but with docs this time no PAP form though.

im just going to send the same again, and CCA/SAR Halifax again also.

 

I’ve uploaded all documents they included, there is a set of generic T&c clearly state effective from 2014 on them, the T&Cs do have my name on first page of them, some of the font looks different towards the end of it though but the supposed CCA (PP agreement) its dated 2011

 

Also they state in their letter the OC cannot provide a Default notice but provided a screen print of when sent.

PAP reply form from CAS here:


https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?481827-The-Pre-Action-Protocol-for-Debt-Claims-is-made-by-the-Master-of-the-Rolls-as-Head-of-Civil-Justice.-1st-Oct-2017(1-Viewing)-nbsp
 
box D ticked
 
I dispute this debt because..the debt purchaser has yet to provide any or all of the required documentation.

This time i will write - i dispute this debt as the debt purchaser has failed to comply with my CCA request in a satisfactory manner
 
box I ticked
I am requesting by way of a CCA Request the signed agreement. AND INCLUDE a CCA request found here:
https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387435-CCA-Request-Consumer-Credit-Act-1974
Include £1 PO
 
THEN also write I also require.. Written on a separate page:
 
a copy of the Default Notice
A copy of the Notice of Assignment
A complete set of statements detailing exactly how the debt has accrued detailing:
I. All Transactions.
II. any additional charges, by the original creditor or XXXX the debt purchaser or any predecessor DCA.
III. details of all contractual interest added by whom and on what date.
IV. List of ALL Payments made toward the Agreement
 
Also i will send CCA Req again to Barclaycard along with SAR Req

 

they replied before i could update this.

They responded to my PAP reply by simply sending the same again… attached
They have still failed to supply NOA and ND, and terms attached are for 2014 onwards signature date was 2011 however

 

DX100UK you previously said the agreement they sent me was a personal protection agreement (attached previously above) but i can’t see that, it says credit agreement at the top of it?

 

halifax cc 28 Nov 2020 at 22_35_17_compressed.pdf

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DX100UK you previously said the agreement they sent me was a personal protection agreement (attached previously above) but i can’t see that, it says credit agreement at the top of it?

 

 

read things properly then...

 

it clearly says by signing the agreement overleaf ...

there is no copy of that..

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes there is a signed copy on page 25 of the uploaded PDF

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yes my comment was about the upload at it's time.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Quick update guys i got a letter stating they are not procoeeding at this time! Good news for now.

 

This will be 6 years SB end of this year. However i noticed when looking at my credit file, the original debt is nulled and the default is now under Moorcroft with a default date they obtained, so 2018 not 2015.

 

Im right in this is irrelevant and it is the date of original debt, once that passes 6 years it is removed from my file? on paper it appears to look like a new debt

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