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    • Thank-you dx for your feedback. That is the reason I posted my opinion, because I am trying to learn more and this is one of the ways to learn, by posting my opinions and if I am incorrect then being advised of the reasons I am incorrect. I am not sure if you have educated me on the points in my post that would be incorrect. However, you are correct on one point, I shall refrain from posting on any other thread other than my own going forward and if you think my post here is unhelpful, misleading or in any other way inappropriate, then please do feel obliged to delete it but educate me on the reason why. To help my learning process, it would be helpful to know what I got wrong other than it goes against established advice considering the outcome of a recent court case on this topic that seemed to suggest it was dismissed due to an appeal not being made at the first stage. Thank-you.   EDIT:  Just to be clear, I am not intending to go against established advice by suggesting that appeals should ALWAYS be made, just my thoughts on the particular case of paying for parking and entering an incorrect VRN. Should this ever happen to me, I will make an appeal at the first stage to avoid any problems that may occur at a later stage. Although, any individual in a similar position should decide for themselves what they think is an appropriate course of action. Also, I continue to be grateful for any advice you give on my own particular case.  
    • you can have your humble opinion.... You are very new to all this private parking speculative invoice game you have very quickly taken it upon yourself to be all over this forum, now to the extent of moving away from your initial thread with your own issue that you knew little about handling to littering the forum and posting on numerous established and existing threads, where advice has already been given or a conclusion has already resulted, with your theories conclusions and observations which of course are very welcomed. BUT... in some instances, like this one...you dont quite match the advice that the forum and it's members have gathered over a very long consensual period given in a tried and trusted consistent mannered thoughtful approach. one could even call it forum hi-jacking and that is becoming somewhat worrying . dx
    • Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant .... I said DCBL because I was reading a few threads about them discontinuing claims and getting spanked in court! Meant  YOU  Highview !!!  🖕 The more I read this forum and the more I engage with it's incredible users, the more I learn and the more my knowledge expands. If my case gets to court, the Judge will dismiss it after I utter my first sentence, and you DCBL and Highview don't even know why .... OMG! .... So excited to get to court!
    • Yep, I read that and thought about trying to find out what the consideration and grace period is at Riverside but not sure I can. I know they say "You must tell us the specific consideration/grace period at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is"  but I doubt they would disclose it to the public, maybe I should have asked in my CPR 31.14 letter? Yes, I think I can get rid of 5 minutes. I am also going to include a point about BPA CoP: 13.2 The reference to a consideration period in 13.1 shall not apply where a parking event takes place. I think that is Deception .... They giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other! One other point to note, the more I read, the more I study, the more proficient I feel I am becoming in this area. Make no mistake DBCL if you are reading this, when I win in court, if I have the grounds to make any claims against you, such as breach of GDPR, I shall be doing so.
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i was caught in shoplifting at primark and they took my id and everything and scared me that they are calling the cops

 

 

fortunately police did not turn up and they gave me a letter stating that you will have to pay a fine

 

 

but if you do not receive a letter in 3 days then call on the number given in the letter and tell them what you have done etc.

 

i am scared like hell that how much would they charge me etc?

 

can you please help me

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There are many, many similar threads on CAG.

 

Do a search on primark, such as

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/search.php?searchid=8254099

 

It will show Primark use RLP. Searching for RLP:

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-0964707606882478:652l7hswbgv&ie=UTF-8&q=RLP&sa=Search+CAG#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=RLP

 

Browse those threads, and get an idea what to expect.

Post back with your summary and any questions.

 

(Bottom line : don't contact RLP or pay them. The police MIGHT still become involved, but it is unlikely. The police are the correct people to decide if they want to take action, not RLP).

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I really hope they didn't use the word FINE...

 

me thinks you are over thinking what they said..

 

and didn't ever use that word

but tried to frighten the bejesus out of you to not do it again , as they should.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Security may well use the word 'fine' verbally but if that word were to be used in writing on any official document then the company could find themselves in trouble. What DX is saying is that only a Criminal Court or duly authorised body can issue 'fines' or 'penalties'. Anybody pretending that they have a lawful authority when they do not, could well be guilty of a criminal offence

 

What the guard in Primark was talking about is a private company which will attempt to force you to pay 'security' costs relating to your wrongdoing. This will be a fixed amount based on the value of goods stolen, however you should not pay them a penny. Nothing will happen except for a string of letters, each one ramping up the pressure to try and frighten you into paying - typically well over £100 towards the costs of detection, detaining you, processing you and a contribution towards their security equipment! So far as liability is concerned, there is none - the option was there for Police involvement and they chose not to take that option. Any involvement by Primark - or the Police - is now over, but RLP will try to tell you different. Don't be frightened into paying up, simply ignore every letter - even when they threaten that their client will take County Court action, as this will not happen. The last time that RLP persuaded one of their clients to take a shoplifter to Court to recover the charge, they lost. Badly. They have not tried to do this since so rely on fear and ignorance.

 

Oh - and do not EVER try shoplifting again. From anywhere. You may not be so lucky next time and might find yourself justifiably with a criminal record

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