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    • Hi everyone.   Before I say anything, TFL finally responded to the email I sent last week:   Thank you for your email, we acknowledge the signed documents you have returned in preparation for your hearing.   We note that this matter is causing you some stress and anxiety, however this is not a reason for TfL to discontinue proceedings. It is not unusual for passengers that have been summonsed to court to experience these symptoms, and we do have some empathy with your concerns.   However, as previously stated, TfL do not accept out of court settlements, and you will have the opportunity at your hearing, to provide your mitigation to the court prior to a decision being reached by them on how they intend to deal with this matter (usually a fine).   I am sorry that this decision is not more favourable.   Yours sincerely   James Vallis     At least he sounds more sympathetic in this email…   Only one week to go until the court hearing and I am so so nervous. I’ve prepared some questions and answers in preparation for what to say to the magistrate. It will help calm me down if I know roughly what to expect. If you could give feedback on it that would be great. If you have anything to add please do let me know.   As far as I know the court hearing will happen in these stages: Introduction and statement of facts Pleading guilty for the journeys I made with my mother’s card Penalty sentencing Appeal (if charged with a criminal record)   Am I guilty? Yes.   Why did I not pay the fare legally? Last year there was a lot going on in my life and I was struggling financially so to relieve some of this I used my mother’s Oyster card. I know it’s not an excuse and it’s still wrong.   Why do I not accept a criminal record? I really don’t want it to affect my chances of finding a job in the future. I will be the one earning money in my family so I am doing my best and studying hard to be able to get a good job. A criminal record would mean that regardless of how hard I’m working I won’t get the job I want after I graduate. This fills me with so much regret, sadness and disappointment in myself. I just want to be a good daughter for my mother because she’s already had to deal with many hardships in her life and I don’t want to make it any harder for her.
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Hello everyone,

 

I've filed my claim online with moneyclaim (I live in England) and T McL has written to me to say it's now being handled by their legal team (who have now acknowledged the claim).

 

I'm just thinking maybe I've done the wrong thing - I'm claiming a total of £2.1k including £500 odd interest (at 8%). Maybe I should have accepted their last offer of £1350 if they would have agreed to pay the £120 moneyclaim costs. I have rejected this offer but not sure whether it's too late to accept. I am feeling quite out of depth.

 

Any advice or comments would be most gratefully received - also does anyone know how long am I likely to have to wait for a court date?

 

Many thanks

Jo

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I'm about 2 weeks behind you, we've just had our offer and the wife is having the same dreads as you are...

 

The prevailing advice seems to be, stand your guns, it's YOUR money, all they are doing now is keeping it warm for you.

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It's really daunting when you think about it....little old you taking on a financial institution with inexhaustable amounts of cash! BUT and yes! that is a big but (no comment please:mad: ) NO ONE (in this country at least) is above the law! when they charged you disproportionate fees they were breaking the law and they know it! it's up to us to get the money they took from us back, it's up to us to stand up to them and hopefully make changes......it's really up to us!

 

You can do it!!!;)

 

Wxx

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Jo,

 

just PM'd you, but like Willow says, STICK TO IT! Until they cough up, they are in the wrong, it is your money and how great would it make Christmas for you to have it all back?

 

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Thanks for the kind words guys -they've done the job, I'm back on track and going nowhere til I get my money.

 

My friend is a lawyer, before she left work to have kids last year she'd never lost a case against Cobbetts... she's dying to dust off her old suit and get back into court to represent me so I'm kind of hoping it gets that far!!

 

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Hello all,

 

Got my Cobbetts defence pack this morning - all very exciting. Just a few questions:

1. Does anyone have a reply to CPR 18 request that I could adapt?

2. Some of the other threads refer to an allocation questionnaire which was in with the defence pack - I don't have this, only the defence and the CPR 18 request. What should I do?

 

Thank you so much for your help!

Jo x

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Try either or both of these for some very interesting cpr18 stuff, including sending your own cpr18 request to Cobbetts which for some reason they seem quite scared of!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/15172-reply-stock-defence-18-a.html

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/royal-bank-scotland-bank/32948-cpr-18-requests-costs.html

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I have actually worked in banks for several years now - needless to say that I have the same problems with them with my account. Given the enormous amount of publicity surrounding bank-charge reclaims/ OFT/ FSA etc it'd be a really good idea to change your username and disclose as few details as possible as at some point i'm sure their enterprise risk departments will read all these threads..........

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