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    I am writing this on behalf of someone else. Where i use the words me i or us means the person involved. Not me.

    I was employed as a mobile with a well known security company.
    My main job was to respond to alarms and deal with them.


    When i started my job off i was told that i was on a gauranteed 24 hour contract (weekly).
    I was not given any paperwork apart from some paperwork to show how and what i should be doing.


    I was told be my manager that i would recieve my contract in the post during the next 4-6 weeks.
    I also emailed my manager and he confirmed that i had indeed signed upto a 24 hr gauranteed contract that gauranteed me work of at least 24 hours a week.

    This manager left and work was going on well until october when my vetting was complete and i was sent a 0 hours contract by Human resources.


    I immediately phoned up and was told to query this with my manager.
    2 emails were sent and nothing happened.
    Again in january this year my manager changed and i raised this again with hr.
    The new manager said he would investigate this.


    He came back to me and told me that the email i had was worthless and that i was on a 0 hours contract.
    Worst bit my days have been cut where i was without any income for 6 weeks.


    Since august last year i have put in several uniform requests and have had 0 back as manager keeps on claiming he has lost paperwork.
    This is despite sending 2 emails to him.

    I now come to the part After having nearly 6 weeks without work i started back a few weeks ago.
    The first night back i was pulled by traffic police and asked why i was watching a video playing while driving.
    The mobile is on a stand.


    I told the officer i was not watching i was only listening to the music and mobile was facing other way.
    Officer gave me words of advice and then took my details and after a few minutes told me i could go.
    No probs so far.
    He then phoned my employers and told them he was concerned for my safety.


    I only found out when a fellow officer came looking for me.
    As far as i was concerned the matter was finished.
    I did not log it either.


    Fellow officer told me that a call had been recieved and that the matter had been escalated to the manager.
    No probs here.


    The manager phoned me the follwoing day and told me i was suspended pending a investigation and that suspension would be unpaid.

    I have been to the investigation meeting and i was shown a picture of me sitting in my van with the mibile facing me.
    I was told this was taken by the other officer and he was allowed to do this.
    I have now been told that a decision will be taken and if needed a disciplinary will be held.
    I have been told not to contact any of my fellow workers.

    What do i do ?

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    unpaid investigatory suspension?

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    Yes i was told as i am on a 0 hours contract i will not be paid for the time i loose while suspended due to a investigation. Regardless of what ever the out come.

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    Just updating this. The freind i was helping had his contract terminated by Securitas.

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    I am helping somebody who left Securitas a while ago.

    Since then every job that he has applied for has been rejected.

    When he left he was not on good terms with the manager.

    However now Subject access requesticon has been completed.

    In reply the company has sent him Copies of most correspondance and also the leavers form.

    Although there has not been a disciplinary history of any type previously.

    He left due to Gross misconduct.

    The thing is his leavers form is showing his disciplinary history as being poor.

    Can anything be done about this.

    I wouldnt really know what to do apart from contact securitas
    but how do i go about it ?

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    he needs some temp work pronto so there is a newer reference. I would try something like builder's labourer, anywhere where checks are less important, and see how he gets on.

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    I am afraid that "poor disciplinary record" is the absolute truth when you have been dismissedicon for gross misconduct,


    What happened?
    And how long has he been out of employment as a result?


    If you can provide more information you might get better advice as to what he might be able to do to get past this.


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    I was owed several days of wages, Mileage and holidayicon pay.
    However despite writing to the manager and also writing to regional manager and so on i had no joy.
    Every time i was knocked back.
    Even after taking this further up the chain to complain i was repeatedly being asked for proof.

    Eventually i issued a small claimicon against them in january this year for 1873.01p.
    It was deemed to be have served on them by 1st Feburary 2017.
    The date for defence to be in was 15/02/17.
    However for one or another reason they never replied.
    I sent my request for judgement in and recieved a judgement against them.

    I have been back to them for payment and have been told that thier legal department is dealing with it.
    It has now been 7 days since i sent them a email and letter requesting payment and giving them 7 days to pay or i take further action.
    Up until afternoon today nothing had happened.
    I sent the judgement to be sealed and recieved it this morning.
    What do i do ?

    Wait or just continue with the enforcement as warned in email and letter ?
    A similar thing happenned with me back a few years ago.
    However rules etc have now changed.

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    IMHO, id pass it straight to a hceo company, pay the 66 transfer fee and let them take a crack at it.
    You really want to do this before their legal dept start getting their teeth into it and dragging it out.


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    Generally the person was pulled over by traffic police for watching a video while driving a company car.

    However the police didnt take any action and the person continued his business.

    However the police phoned notified his employer who decided to take things further.

    Thats exactly what i was thinking. they are probably using delaying tactics .

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    Will speak to them in the morning.
    I am sure this sort of thing would damage such a big company's reputation or even their contracts etc.

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    Hang on - please read this carefully.

    Yes, gut HCEO in. You should have done it immediately because the next thing you know, they will be making a setasideicon application.

    The warning is this: - HCEO fees are very expensive. Some HCEO will expect you to pay the fee if the enforcement fails. Some HCEO will give you a deal where if the enforcement fails, then you don't pay anything. If they succeed then the fee is paid by judgment debtor.

    Make sure that you are agreeing to a no win no fee arrangement.


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    Well he is very lucky it wasn't taken further. However it wouldn't be stated like that on a reference.

    As previously stated he needs a temping job so employers won't ask about that reference


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    I'd say that he was lucky to only be dismissedicon for gross misconduct - which it was.
    And he wouldn't have got away so lightly now.


    That kind of offence is highly unlikely to solicit any sympathy with employers,
    so I agree
    - he must take any job at all that he can get and build up a new reference.


    And since I am not sympathetic either
    - I hope very much that he has learned a lesson from this,
    because I think the police let him off too lightly.


    Had he killed someone, or seriously injured them, he might be in prison now, and someone else's life would be ruined.

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    Will speak to them in the morning. I am sure this sort of thing would damage such a big company's reputation or even their contracts etc.
    It won't. That's why companies like this don't care.


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    a HCEO will love this job, guaranteed payout for them, the company will have so many assets over so many sites.

    The company will usually have delayed things because they dont believe that you would have done what you said you would do and the paperwork will be filed in 3 differwent places and when the bailiffs knock they will all blame everyone else, including you, for being unable to organise a proverbial party in a brewery.

    They have a credit control section and a legal section so no excuses will wash.

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    Update Enforcement officers went in today and have collected the amount due.

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