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I can actually understand why people are trying to stand up for Miss Patel, if that newspaper article is correct. How did a court decide that she was liable for neighbours legal costs of £60k, when she had already paid neighbour their £8k claim ? Seems a disproportionate amount.

 

According to the other thread on here regarding the case, she lost at first instance, appealed and then lost again in the High Court.

 

Hard to say if its disproportionate, but given the way she's handled things so far, I'm willing to bet the other side served her with a Notice of Commencement, which she ignored, and they then applied for a Default Costs Certificate for the full amount of their bill.

 

If that's the case, if it was disproportionate, she lost an opportunity to make arguments get the other side's bill of costs reduced.

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Must admit that i have a certain admiration for those that look to help others, even though they might be misguided.

 

The actions of these people must put pressure on HCEO's to act properly and that must be a positive.

 

What i can never understand is why there is not a better system, where those with a grievance are better represented in the courts and they are given a proper hearing. There is then a better way of the claimant enforcing the judgement without needing to get to the stage of forced evictions etc. I should imagine the Police don't want their resources being taken up attending, when they have more important things to deal with.

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Isn't part of the issue not that people are poorly represented in court,

but that many just bury their heads in the sand until it's too late and so end up not actually turning up to court when they have the chance?

 

I do wonder what the ratio is of cases High Court Bailiffs attend that stem from default judgements rather than contested judgements.

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Hi,

I watch this program last night and have to say even though this chap Chrisy does seem to get in the bailiffs way he does his best to help an buy peoples time.

 

It does frustrate me though reading here how people who do not understand freeman rights just dismiss it as rubbish. If you know a bit about it and just say "I am a freeman" then yes a judge or Police Officer will throw the book at you. However after following a free woman and seeing how she dealt with a Magistrates court and had the case thrown out and had police officers actively remove a bailiff after he arrived to assist the bailiff then yes Freeman rights are true but you have to go about using it in the right way.

 

It takes a lot of time and understanding and investment in items like a Blacks Law dictionary, you must understand the difference between a Law, and Act and a Statute and be able to explain this to police officers. To deal with financial issue you must understand contract law and definitely understand the foundation of Common Law.

 

So don't poo poo it until you truly know it so a little respect here to this guy. So if you do think he is crap and I am full of hot air let me ask you this. Do you own your car? If you said yes to that then it shows how little you know and its why a police officer can take it away.

 

 

If I put a little effort into I could truly own my car and that would mean if some one clamped it or towed it I could under the law actually prosecute them for theft.

 

Also understand this about courts Chrisy was at a Crown court I am sure he would have preferred a Court de Jure however if it was a Magistrates court and you know how to enter, what to bring and understand legalese then it would have been no bother. You have to understand a Magistrates court is a Maritime court and has no jurisdiction of land based matters. You might have noticed some reference to maritime came up at the eviction.

 

But people get prosecuted there because they have no real idea how a court works and live in fear of what they do not understand.

 

Anyway have a read or just ignore it its your choice after all, just remember Knowledge is the true power

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Sigh another FOTL clown thinks he knows better and can ignore every law he doesnt like.

 

They should be committed to psychiatric institutes.

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It says it all there when a freeman believes they don't need to act within our laws, but if someone takes their car, they can get the police to do them for theft. So you don't need to follow our laws, but I we break the laws acting against you, we should be punished by said laws that you dismiss???

 

Bloody nincompoops. Grow up.

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So if you do think he is crap and I am full of hot air let me ask you this. Do you own your car? If you said yes to that then it shows how little you know and its why a police officer can take it away.

 

 

If I put a little effort into I could truly own my car and that would mean if some one clamped it or towed it I could under the law actually prosecute them for theft.

 

Oh go on then, someone here has to be sucker enough to ask, it might as well be me this time.

 

Why don't I own my own car? How could I truly own my own car?

 

I realise I might regret asking this.....

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Bonkers

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I bet he thinks he doesnt drive his car either. He 'travels' in it, so he doesnt need to register it, tax it, or insure it. Or even get a driving licence.

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Oh go on then, someone here has to be sucker enough to ask, it might as well be me this time.

 

Why don't I own my own car? How could I truly own my own car?

 

I realise I might regret asking this.....

 

 

Because these idiots believe when you register your car you hand ownership to the state

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I'm sure he would have chosen trial by combat but that right was repealed.

Question for bincrafty When was time immemorial?

you have heard the saying "since time immemorial, well when exactly was that? There is an answer so not a trick question and everyone, not just FOTL should know this.

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To all the FMOTL who do not consent .......

 

I don't consent to you using council services if you don't pay council tax.

I don't consent to you using the NHS, or receiving any state funded benefits, if you have elected not to pay income tax or NI.

 

Bincrafty : if you want to opt-out, fair enough, but are you agreeing not to use ANY service provided (or subsidised) by local or central government without creating an agreed bilateral contract first?

If your house was on fire do you expect the fire brigade to try to save your house or merely try to stop it spreading to other properties?

 

What about if your house is being burgled?

Do you want the police to turn up, and if so who is funding them?

You don't consent to paying for them do you??

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please com back bincrafty, we want your thoughts and answers!

 

And come to your senses :madgrin:

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The following press report features on SCOOP.

 

Anyone viewing YouTube videos regarding bailiff enforcement, will be familiar with the name of Chrisy Morris (he previously used to call himself Chrissy Morris).

 

Chris Morris features very prominently on many of the FMoTL F/B groups where he is very know know for 'baiting' bailiffs. He will telephone enforcement agents, enforcement companies, court staff etc and upload the conversations onto YouTube.

 

As the article states, he is to face a 2 days trial for obstructing a Enforcement Agent when enforcing a High Court writ.

 

 

https://tamesidereporter.com/2017/03/patel-cottage-bailiff-eviction-demonstrator-opts-for-trial/

Chrisy Morris has succeeded in getting his re-hearing at Minshull St Crown Court Manchester on 30th November. This is for obstructing a High Court Enforcement Officer in June 2016 during Rekha Patel's 1st eviction. It'll be heard with 2 magistrates and a judge, no jury. Co-incidentally Rekha Patel is at Stockport Magistrates Court 2 days earlier on 28th November for the same offence. She obstructed a High Court Officer during her 2nd eviction in July this year and had her Magistrates hearing postponed due to FoTL tactics causing courtroom chaos in August. Both are being filmed by Ken Thompson for his documentary "Meet The Resistance". They love being on TV these two, except that nothing Ken films ever gets finished.:smile:

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...... Quote from the numpty claiming to understand freeman twoddle...

 

You have to understand a Magistrates court is a Maritime court

 

 

And there lies the problem.

 

Freemans cant spell.

The laws they claim all stem from a spelling mistake.

 

They dont know their is a difference between [or the correct usage of their and there]

Berth certificate and birth certificate.....

This is why they claim maritime law and I'm the straw man...

Numptys

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Just to give you some insight

 

Mr Morris has got off because the EA had the incorrect paperwork

the eviction was an N293a (think i have this correct)

Apparently the Owner of the house was a trespasser according to the claimant.

so the claimant put before the court misleading information.

 

so I can understand why he was found not Guilty.

 

even more reason to check the paperwork from any EA.

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Just to give you some insight

 

Mr Morris has got off because the EA had the incorrect paperwork. The eviction was an N293a (think i have this correct)

Apparently the Owner of the house was a trespasser according to the claimant.

 

There is a lot of gossip doing the rounds so its difficult to know the true position. The enforcement agent had no obligation whatsoever to show the warrant to Chrisy Morris.

 

He truly is losing his grip on reality. Apparently, on Saturday, there was a live stream on his FB page of Rekha and her new landlord Ken Thompson trying to "occupy' her ex-cottage. With security guards and dogs guarding the cottage for the past few weeks their attempts failed of course.

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Thanks BA

it was not showing the warrant, it was more that the warrant was gained by deceit,

by stating it was for a trespasser/squatter,

 

BA can you explain why the warrant does not have to be shown when asked,

if it is incorrect how can it be questioned?

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The warrant only has to be known by a person in authority of its existence. Much in the same way if your stopped by the police for a minir traffic offence, and they run checks and it turns out there I a warrant for your arrest, they will take you in.

You question the warrant with the relevent party or judge. The person who is enforcing the warrant has no authority to change or question it

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