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Hi Guys,

 

Over the years, with help from you good people, I have sorted out my old debts and they are long Statue Barred.

I sometimes get a begging letter, but ignore.

 

A Few months ago, I decided to try my luck and use a PPI Company and see if there was any money to come back from these old accounts.

 

To my surprise, a couple have had PPI, which have been over 13 years old and I have collected the money minus the PPI Companies fees.

Totally satisfied and then

 

today, the very Old Welcome Loan people have advised that there is PPI of nearly £2,400, but state that as my 'account' is in arrears, (no its long SB) they have sold the account and are going to send it to the third party.

Are they allowed to do this?

 

The other two were from Old debts and there was no problem.

The PPI Company seem to have accepted this and want to charge me a flat fee.

 

I find this unacceptable and have emailed them, demanding they pull their finger out.

 

Now I need to know, that I am correct and the PPI money from Welcome,

is it due to me or not?

Many thanks for your help

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in welcomes case ONLY yes they can sadly if this is being deal with by the fscs and is prior to 2005 takeout

 

as for paying those twits to get the ppi back

you just lost upto 50% of your reclaim after tax and vat deductions

you could of done it for free yourself.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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is there anything you can undo...?

 

 

have the CMC charged you for the welcome one too or is that separate from them?

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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claims management company...who are??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I would be checking to see if the debt has been legally assigned to whoever before I gave up.

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Check your credit files see if its left a footprint or do a DSAR to Welcome for all the data.

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was the welcome refund through the FSCS by any chance?

theres some kind of legal wavier with welcome

where by they don't have to refund the PPI to the borrower

 

but it seems to have something to do with the date the agreement was signed post 2005

 

but even if theres no NOA welcome could then still pay it off the debt then?

 

its something ive never really understood

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Actually, I would be having look at Welcome.

 

When a company sells on debts, they can assign the rights to the debt but they cannot assign the duties. This means that if they have mis-sold you PPI and they owe you a duty to repay it then it is Welcome which must repay the money to you. The rest of the problem is between them and their assignee.

 

This can cause a lot of fun because they have no right to pay the money to the assignee. They are obliged to pay you and course, they will not be able to get the money back from the assignee. Apart from anything else, the assignee has probably bought the debt for less money even than the value PPI.

 

Oh how we laughed.

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Let me just point out that I'm not sure what DX is referring to when he mentions a waiver and the FSCS. This is not something that I have heard of and it may well be relevant and could alter my response above.

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that's the best explanation ive seen in years

shame its a CMC mind

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks as always for your help.

I have decided to try and get the PPI from welcome myself.

They have agreed there is PPI and want to send it to a third party Debt collector.

 

I have rang Welcome Finance and the DC is DCL Hillsden.

They are adamant, even though the debt is long SB, that if I sign the agreement for return of PPI, they will give the DC nearly £2400.00.

Any suggestions?

Or do I just let it go?

 

There is no way I am signing the form for a DC to get hold of that money.

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no quite correct

 

 

just as a point

is this from/on behalf of the FSCS working at welcome?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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can you scan it up please to PDF

follow the upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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did you send that sar?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Where did the other attachments go?

 

I posted them up tonight?

 

Sorry, haven't sent a SAR as was not going to bother with the PPI as Welcome Claim that if I sign the acceptance form, all the PPI money will go to Hillsden who have bought the debt long ago for pennies.

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