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Hi everyone,

 

I've done some digging, and see that 25 out of the 28 EU countries now share details if a foreign car is noted committing certain traffic offences.

 

 

An Italian car, say, is photographed speeding in France.

The Italian authorities will give the French authorities the keeper's details and the fine will be sent to the person's home in Italy http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-directive/

 

This scheme does not apply to the UK

- but the UK will join in May and presumably stay until Brexit, if not longer.

 

I was wondering what forum members would advise in such a situation.

 

Regarding France specifically,

I see a speeding fine for being just a few km over the limit is €45, if paid within 46 days, which I doubt would be worth chasing, but after 76 days it becomes €180 which might be worth chasing.

 

 

Obviously the French authorities can't do anything themselves in the UK,

but they can transfer the debt to a third party in the UK (I think!)

 

My reason for writing this thread is that although I'm British,

I live in Italy,

and have just received two French fines,

one for being 7km over the limit on a motorway,

and one for 5km over the limit, on a different motorway.

 

 

I need to ask for advice on Italian forums,

which I am doing,

 

 

but as I'm a fan of CAG I thought to scribble a thread here too!

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be VERY careful these are not S c a m letters.

 

they cant do anything to you anyway even if they are real.

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Yes, most likely a sc@m.

Italian authorities would just ignore French communication, they're too lazy (and I'm one of them).

Check where the money should go and if you find that it is a fraud, report to polizia postale, they deal with these things.

In fact, they would be able to tell you if it's a sc@m.

Anyhow, French authorities cannot give you points, eu is not that advanced yet.

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For information,

though the UK does not (yet) share details with France,

 

French customs can and do stop vehicles entering/leaving the country at ferry ports if there are outstanding fines for that vehicle -

 

the ferry companies are obliged to pass on all vehicle registrations, and

 

many times when we've been sat waiting to go through security we've seen customs officers heading straight for a vehicle that's just checked in.

 

I suspect they're not particularly bothered about who might have been driving at the time of the offence either.

 

The moral is,

if you must speed in France,

don't return in the same vehicle if you don't want to pay up,

and always, always carry your reg doc

which will show the date you became the keeper in case it's the previous owner at fault.

RMW

"If you want my parking space, please take my disability" Common car park sign in France.

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the DVLA will seel your details on, even to countries where it is illegal to do so and that invites certain people in countries that have a bit of history for corruption (italy and Greece to name 2) to try their luck at earning a few quid on the side.

 

You have to look very carefully at who the recipient of the money is and genreally it isnt a .gov dept or organisation.

Also, you get fake taxis and police cars in Italy, Jamaica and others.

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Many thanks to everyone for your advice.

 

I was in two minds originally as to whether to post a thread here,

as obviously CAG is a UK site and won't be expert about legal agreements between France & Italy!

 

 

However, I thought

(a) a thread might be useful for others as I think the UK is going to join this scheme in May and

(b) CAG is always a source of intelligent advice anyway.

 

I can understand why some suggested this could be a sc@m

but I'm pretty sure it isn't:

my name,

car reg.,

the times of the offences

and the roads I drove on are all legit.

 

 

The site they want payment through is the official French site for payment of motoring fines.

There is also a lot of info.

on-line in Italian forums and on reputable Italian media sites about this agreement between EU countries, and it all fits.

 

I'm tempted to pay as 2 x €45 isn't much and I have no idea of the next time I could be in France, potentially with the same car.

 

Thanks again!

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and that site is?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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