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Dear all,

 

I had some NHS dental treatment whilst believing I was in receipt of JSA.

 

 

However the DWP had stopped my claim without informing me.

 

Consequently I have been hit with paying £43 for the treatment and a £100 penalty charge.

 

I am no longer on any benefits and have no income whatsoever.

 

My question is:

What if I just don't pay the £143?

Are they likely to take me to court for that amount?

What would be the likely outcome of my refusal?

 

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My question is:

What if I just don't pay the £143?

Are they likely to take me to court for that amount?

What would be the likely outcome of my refusal?

 

 

Hi,

 

It's not something I know a lot about but have been unable to find a case where someone has been taken to court for such a small amount.

As you are saying you have no income whatsoever, there's not much point in me saying you can apply to pay in instalments.

 

 

A person who wishes to challenge the request for payment of a penalty charge by the NHS Business Services Authority (NHSBSA), may explain their circumstances to the NHSBSA and if they can demonstrate to the NHSBSA’s satisfaction that they did not act wrongfully, or with any lack of care, they will not be subject to a penalty charge.

 

The NHSBSA also has discretion to waive the penalty charge where the person concerned provides compelling reasons for making an incorrect claim for exception. A person who is not satisfied with the handling of their case may use the NHS complaints process to make a complaint against the NHSBSA. Ultimately, this can be escalated to the Health Service Ombudsman.

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Do you think I will get a CCJ?

 

 

Sorry, that I don't know, only a court can issue one.

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do as we did pay it = end of or they hike it even to court proceedings, there are different JSA etc etc we made the same mistake

there are time limits to pay, did they not contact you initially say for £43.00? with a time limit before the charges go up? b

 

 

had to pay even when Other half had no income what so ever but JSA/ etc at the time but threat of court cost = no win there anyway just more charges, - draconian government we have even in health issues.

 

They even offered other half £1.48 a week job seekers Bus fare £ 2.48 return 3 times a week - did not add up that is how cruel the MPs Bxxxxxxx are.

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No they didnt contact me for the £43 first.

 

I just cant imagine they would take me to court for £143!

At worst I think I'd be looking at a CCJ thats all.

 

I just want to know if anyone else has been in a similar situation and just refused to pay.

If so, what was the outcome?

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I am a similar threat over my head - in my case, the Dental Surgery made the mistake of informing me that I was entitled to free dental treatment. So, just wondering if anyone managed to get their penalty waived or if you keep refusing to pay, what happens then?

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I have to agree with the above even if you try to appeal this is you look at this link: https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/challenge-penalty-charge-notice

 

go down the webpage and have a read of 'Challenge reasons we can't accept'. (read the entire page)

 

What you need to do is make a formal complaint to the practice manager of the dental practice.

 

More than likely they will probably say it was your responsibility to read the forms before signing them. (as you were unsure you relied upon the staff knowledge)

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The Practice manager will no doubt state responsibility is yours - be aware longer you take the more they will increase the money ! another law to themselves government rip offs - always the vulnerable people kicked down, always said if out of work and a claimant never mind what so called benefit for unemployment you are on then 1 cap should fit all, we have been there and had to pay up, of course complaints after = well we got your money hard luck type attitude.

 

 

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Hi Old Cogger, thanks for the interest. I did approach the owner of the Dental Surgery who was the Dentist as well - she said exactly what you'd said she would - that it was my responsibility - there were signs all over the reception - but the point is, I've not been to the dentist for years...probably 10 years. And when I went in, I showed my card and the rreceptionist said, ah, you're entitled to free dental treatment - sign this form - so I signed. Didn't tick or even date the form. That was in Nov 2017. Then I had to go in for another check up 6 months later - and I did - and once again, no charge, then this time, I signed the form and again no ticks and date BUT someone else put in the date (not my handwriting) and the cross on the NHS Tax Credit Exemption. So I got nailed. In another forum, someone had exactly the same situation - but int hat case, the dentist was horrified that they made such a mistake and offered to pay the penalty. Then I suppose, they wrote to NHS and admitted they mistake - and the penalty was waived. Now that is a good honest practice. Not mine unfortunately.

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As a NHS patient a fee must of been submitted to the NHS area office who fine you not the dentist, so an appeal goes to local NHS as stated on fine letter etc, as for a dentist owning up paying a fine is in the extreme not a usual practice, so as we did pay up, my O.H. who was fined was only on £1.48 a week job seekers allowance and it seems the wrong allowance as I have stated earlier post, so the NHS do not give a dam, I paid 78 pounds out of my weekly pension by the way which was only £113 a week then

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