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Right I’m with you.

 

Do you know what’s baffling me the most Is they get a solictor to travel for almost 3 hours to go to a court hearing miles away. Without disclosing anything to him I’ve sent them since March not to mention the second witness statement.

 

So therefore he knew nothing but was in court on a restored 3rd repo. With no firm evidence.

 

Is that common practice?

And shouldn’t have his legal knowledge stopped him going down this route as he obviously should have realised by his rider that he had limited info and should have been request more docs from alpha.

Plus he would have known that by sending stuff out to me on the 9th it wasn’t allowing much time to get anything back from me

 

I’m still shocked with all the last months events

 

Any why are all the letters I receive headed prime not alpha

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na they just get paid to try and fumble/bluff their way thru and get the home or try and strike a deal before hand

very murky world.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No wonder the judge was laughing at him then?

I hope the judge gives the company a good ticking off

 

When you got time look at statement I had in the original court docs or their final response to complaint

 

 

28 jan 2014 transfer out IF

28 jan 2014 transfer into SB

 

28 June 15 transfer into SB

28 June 15 transfer out IF

 

What do they mean

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No wonder the judge was laughing at him then?

I hope the judge gives the company a good ticking off

 

When you got time look at statement I had in the original court docs or their final response to complaint

 

 

28 jan 2014 transfer out IF - something FEE £12 penalty charge

28 jan 2014 transfer into SB - transfer into statement balance?

 

28 June 15 transfer into SB

28 June 15 transfer out IF

 

What do they mean

 

 

think

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I missed an I infront of my think

 

wasn't having a go

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I still haven’t received the order from court yet in post.

I’m going to give them a bell.

 

I’m panicking a bit as I am away with work from the 25th so defence has to go in before I go and I need everything from them to show you lot here.

 

Order Posted on Friday so hopefully I’ll have it in tomorrow’s post

 

Is this at all relevant to me and the situation (I) 8

 

http://www.landmarkchambers.co.uk/userfiles/documents/resources/Defences_to_mortgage_possession_claims_RT.pdf

 

http://blogs.lexisnexis.co.uk/randi/how-far-reaching-are-schemes-of-arrangement-re-welcome-financial-services-ltd/

 

 

http://blogs.lexisnexis.co.uk/randi/schemes-of-arrangements-pushing-the-boundaries-of-jurisdiction/

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Emailing you the judgment now.

 

There’s no forms attached for me to file in though.

 

Is anyone helping with this as no one has posted anything for me to answer to go on the defence.

 

I’m not sure what I need to do but I’ve only got 2 days till I go.

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By 2pm 30th jan I must put in a detailed defence and statement of truth to claim send to court and alpha

 

So post the judgment here for all to see...you have already made a start with your detailed statement recently submitted...simply add and amend and fine tune that statement and resubmit.

We could do with some help from you.

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I’m going away to work on the 25th and won’t be back before the courts shut on the 30th.

 

Well you have already had 8 days to make a start ?

We could do with some help from you.

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Yes I have asked many times what to do as I haven’t a clue. Any template. Do I need to ref case law

 

How do I do detailed defence. Everything is so flawed plus there are other issues within the dispute with this company.

 

The whole debate with the other company before it was sold to these.

 

How can I answer things directly. When I have no questions to follow. Without going off on a tangent.

 

I thought I would have some sort of form with this order what about the counterclaim too

Court order 16th Jan.pdf

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So has the claimant complied with point 2 and served you a complete account of transactions ?

 

A detailed defence is similar to witness statement...simply lay it out on a blank A4 as per your previous statement....if you are making a counter claim then that is included at the end of the statement

 

Upload unapproved your post code and court name still visible.

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No I have to put in defence and counterclaim first

 

However The claimant has served me with a statement in the original possession claim in March. And a few revised statments since.

 

No account no on just a statement dating back to August 2008.

 

They took over this loan in oct 2016

 

But the loan agreement I gave in court tues started in 2006 showed as settled in 2007

 

The loan they are claiming is attached to legal charge different account no. The 2006 loan is on top of legal charge not the 2008 one they have statement for

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Ah yes theirs is 21st Feb....so go back to very beginning of this claim from when they filed a claim and start drafting a statement of case (Detailed defence) and bullet point the main points as paragraphs.

 

If you intend counterclaiming as the court seem to suggest that is reserved for the end of the statement.

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And what would be the main points?

 

Think me and dx could write a book. Not just a statement :!:

 

Not a clue...not really followed your thread.......but only you are in the best position to explain to the court why their claim should be dismissed.

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For example in their witness stament to court in jan 2018 that’s all that was in there is

 

Official copy of register

 

2 letters saying follwing transfer of mortgage one to ex wife and one to me at the wrong address. Both Un headed with account no of 2008 loan

 

A direct debit mandate

 

Letters to

Owner occupier

Main mortgage

Head of housing

And very old equitable charge on property

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That means nothing to me...you would better making a start instead of keep posting here....then we have time to look over it before you have to submit......clock is ticking.

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Not a clue...not really followed your thread.......but only you are in the best position to explain to the court why their claim should be dismissed.

 

Don’t even go there its bonkers and will take you ages

 

What are good reasons for claims being dismissed and maybe I can work around that whilst elaborating on my witness statement.

 

What about Case laws

 

What evidence do I need too

 

I could have started this last week had I been given this advice then

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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