Marc Gander - The Consumer Survival Handbook


A 220 page introduction to all things consumer related by our own BankFodder.

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Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


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    GCHQ ?

    Is this a private residential house where you have had works done including fitting a gas appliance ?

    Or is it a business ?

    Why has it taken 5 years ?


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    The players i am trading against are well rehearsed
    the joe thinks all are straight point of sale
    ,if someone wants to dodge the bullet in their interests to delay you may bottle it.

    Any joe reading this be warned if you instruct you may buy their BMW
    you win but get no costs award hollow victory what good is that.

    Joe thinks SOGicon and CRAicon there to protect think again these are in place to protect business

    Back to the 5 year deal ya moan ,waive flags,beat your drum reply we will do it tomorrow.

    Joe gets revved up fires missiles at non parties CEO S ban staff from speaking pull shutters down ,
    why well the manufacturers what supply the producer all **** in the same pot

    the trade body what certs plays golf its one of them,
    when MD s sit on each others board how do you break through the force fields you bang it in court then the retailer has lost the
    whip hand tomorrow will come for one of the parties.


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    cant you not just use plain English!!

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    especially when you hear the infamous click, go down the road to phone box any make personal calls!

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    What is a " joe "

    We could do with some help from you

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    When i have tried to obtain information from industry related forums the account is blocked
    posts are erased and senior members replies are also erased where they may have wanted to hear about it.

    A case like this could easily end up in the courts of appeal
    any legal person would pick out bullet points SOGicon/Protected party/5 non parties /multi track/fast track/Single joint instruction/
    multi casemanagement/direct access barrister/retailer/part 20 manufacturer/Certification body BSI/poss part 34/poss part 36icon/poss 1 -2 day trial/multiple apps


    so someone in the know would say costs could well be telephone numbers thats why the grunt consumer takes it lying down.

    In my life i have learnt rule 1
    never trade with the establishment


    rule 2
    if you do have a fall guy the latter if you lose ya doe pay thats how it rolls no wig likes rule 2 .

    So back to my original question
    can ADR be retrospective
    if so the problem with this the body what certificated the unit there name is in court as a non party for possible breach of en1949 why would i trust that body.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthemondoe View Post
    When i have tried to obtain information from industry related forums the account is blocked posts are erased and senior members replies are also erased where they may have wanted
    to hear about it.
    A case like this could easily end up in the courts of appeal any legal person would pick out bullet points SOGicon/Protected party/5 non parties /multi track/fast track/Single joint instruction/
    multi casemanagement/direct access barrister/retailer/part 20 manufacturer/Certification body BSI/poss part 34/poss part 36icon/poss 1 -2 day trial/multiple apps so someone in the know would say costs could well be telephone numbers thats why the grunt consumer takes it lying down.
    In my life i have learnt rule 1 never trade with the establishment rule 2 if you do have a fall guy the latter if you lose ya doe pay thats how it rolls no wig likes rule 2 .
    So back to my original question can ADR be retrospective if so the problem with this the body what certificated the unit there name is in court as a non party for possible breach of en1949 why would i trust that body.


    We have not got a clue what your on about Jack...sorry.


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    Dam got a splinter from scratching me Head! trying to understand this!

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    sorry i missed that question
    a joe joey grunt all the same jazz member of the public
    what i call believers ,
    believers are good people that get kicked in the nuts rolled they know no beta ,


    me no joe i have bin shopped to the justice minister and had a petition presented to the house of commons about a site i own.

    Riddle for people half sensible who would do that.

    I will ask the question again case in fast track ,


    defendant at next hearing wants time to consider part 20 and mentions ADR
    does he mean a part 36icon offer to stop proceedings

    could this be a ambush to say to the court we tried to settle pre trial ,


    the prob with this i could be 10k down where i have a strong case but then depends what you may win at trial.


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    What are the grounds for any counterclaim by the defendant ?


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    There is no counterclaim at present
    a part 36icon.6 is a offer to settle


    this may be their adr
    the offer would not come unless the manufacturer was in loop,


    a part 20 would join in the big guns
    what may effect their reputation
    and i must be fair they do have a good reputation


    however the retailer has much adverse,
    took to court TS ,
    bad press
    daily mail lots of bad reviews
    the list goes on and


    they have been leaned on by the drat and punished disabled people


    the dirts all out their
    me would love to type this in for all to google
    then ya see me not speak with fork tongue yea man


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    "We are offering ADR" is not a valid part 36icon offer.
    CPR r36 lays out strict formalities for an offer to comprise a Part 36 offer.

    Meanwhile, OP : slow up.
    You keep conflating different issues, and as a result your posts come across in a way that confuses people. Stick to one issue at a time, be that Part 36, Part 20, or what you believe is the conspiracy against your postings........


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    Is there a reason you have not named the retailer to which you refer?

    What's the problem with informing TS?

    What;s the blast you speak of?


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    How could i name the retailer with a live case in progress

    Citizens advice/trading standards recorded complaint july 2013

    Trading standards local signed for documents last week
    retailer/manufacturer,certificatio n body all the other non parties not yet aware will be on 18.7.2017

    Back at case management soon where it was likely a Single joint expert witness would be ordered plus other directions.

    Defendant was asked to file some other docs before hearing


    in that bundle they requested more time for manufacturer to respond and in this bundle they also stated it would allow a window for ADR/Mediationicon during 15 months
    this flag has never been waved till now.

    About the posts
    i am not having a pop at this forum it is not connected to the industry,
    as i said the ones that are remove the postings even when you tap dance around the issue.

    Another point very easy to give bias spin to all it may be all lies,look at the lingo i use where would a grunt get this from.

    Any one taking the kings shilling from TS knows these statements are bang on.

    If there is a proven safety issue
    i have won the case and also there are enough clues in the posts to guess the product then you would no some of the players involved i can not
    state this.


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    Right, it's a big company? you feel vulnerable. Reading your posts there's movement in the process and hopefully soon you will have recompense and the company will be scrutinised to make sure safety issues are dealt with.


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    Ok part warm the industry is all about party jellie,
    in the early days me thought with my stupid mentality i could boo em off
    they would back down


    in my previous lives i have put sum on notice of high court that worked,
    these crews it did not and


    i understand the comments to the factory revved em up like got advice take bar out of factory u produce beta gear and
    mine looks good from 500 mtrs,
    the sad part about this the true claimant is a protected party and been deprived use 5 years.

    That why me said in this industry ,golf,hand shake ,closing ranks and all that jazz
    but me the legal anti grunt with pointy ears when the manufacturer Md as his running shoes on thats a laff .

    When the manufacturers generals say we are very sorry
    got the lettos 5 years later
    not sorted
    cant use the scrap
    its not a washing machine


    this is to the death yea man


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    Is there an interpreter who can clarify the OP's posts?

    I'm lost as to what they are trying to say ........


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackthemondoe View Post
    mine looks good from 500 mtrs,the sad part about this the true claimant is a protected party and been deprived use 5 years.
    I would like clarification of this sentence

    aah is this how you feel, your case looks good but you're not convinced, if not correct me. The next question is what does 'the true claimant is a protected party' mean. Is that still how you feel as not to expose more of who you are claiming against.

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    If you know the law there is nothing to clarify
    if yow doe it is well above your station
    read the previous quotes
    get a feel for how complex this is,


    soon me will find out if the big cheque book crew are on board as me say telephone numbers.

    Some people walk the walk
    some walk the walk and talk the talk


    the beak said time r u off your ed do you know what u r getting into
    me said to the beak
    no me not off me ed
    but out mybrains


    this was not received very well ,
    this is not messers court


    i have to create a different ATE
    how else could i trade against big guns


    i only have a small gun but alot of bottle


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    Think its time you had a nap Jackthemondoe



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