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    Well i feel the rally tomorrow will be very interesting as the latest happenings at the Cuadrilla Fracking Site will anger a good few people.

    Amber tremor recorded near Cuadrilla’s fracking site.
    The British Geological Survey recorded a small earth tremor today near Cuadrilla’s fracking site on the edge of Blackpool. This follows three micro-seismic events yesterday.

    The seismic activity, the first recorded in the area since fracking began on Monday (15 October 2018), was too small to be felt at the surface.

    But today’s event had a magnitude of 0.3ML, which puts it in the amber level of the regulations on induced seismicity during fracking. This requires operators to “proceed at caution”. Under the rules, known as the traffic light system, fracking must stop immediately (red level) if seismic events reach 0.5ML.
    https://drillordrop.com/2018/10/19/t...qX9DURJw8x0gxE

    There are other rumours around that i will not print as not sure of anything.
    But way back in this when Cuadrilla were asked what happen to the liquid that is left down there said,we do not know.
    Flowback,we know only so much comes back up.Nice to know the experts do not know what happens to all the chemicals and all the rest that are left down there for all time.
    Unless,leave that to your imagination.
    Can you believe that Fracking will be allowed to spread across England as it has to to have any chance
    I do not i believe communities will rise and throw the Frackers out of England.
    We will see.

    Rally tomorrow,have a nice weekend.
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    The earth tremors are worrying. I imagine the problem would be worse if fracking spread across the country. And the chemicals have to go somewhere - into drinking water?


    Take care at the rally, TO.


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    I haven't looked at this evidence properly but think it important to post these so others can.

    The seismic info is openly available from
    http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/helicorder/heli.html

    Here is an example from one of the Blackpool area monitors
    http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/hel...2018102000.gif

    The blackpool areas seem to be the monitors beginning with aqicon

    More than happy for someone to correct/enhance the info in this post

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    Please correct if these are wrong
    Not sure if closest is best?

    http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/helicorder/heli.html
    These appear to be the nearest bgs sensors
    aq03 Warton
    aq05 Staining
    aq06 Thistleton

    plus aq07 goosnargh worth watching at least


    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Wa...d53.817855!3e0


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    Hi old Tawnyowl here back from the Rally.And thanks for the interesting posts.
    i will write a lot more about Earthquakes,Water,Norm,Fl owback and appeals for Court Cases as soon as time allows.
    Back to yesterday and if you feel so inclined tell people what is going on in Blackpool,it could be heading your way soon.

    Back to yesterday.
    National Climate Crisis Rally - Stop Fracking Now!
    People arrived in Buses-Coaches-Cars-Trains-Bicycles-and on Foot to attend this Rally..A Great day..A spirit is building unlike anything i have seen before.Communities are joining together to say no.Time to listen to them.
    Conversations as you went through the crowd filming and watching the birdman from Mission Springs with his huge owl talking Cumbrian to a policeman was the funniest thing ever.That and meeting a huge Rabbit who does not like his burow being shaken by Earthquakes.And of course observing the Preston 3 released form their chains. Followed by cups of tea and interesting conversation with Elmo,such a nice protector and a Nana protector..And of course meeting Ann Power at the back of the march who told me,no problem walking this ar,i am used to it.80 odd,raring to go waving her walking stick in the air.Unbelievable warrior.All captured on the videos..My best most interesting Rally yet..

    Videos and a few photos.
    National Climate Crisis Rally - Stop Fracking Now!
    https://www.facebook.com/damon.lynch...9339020&type=3



    it as one of those days when you could not cover everything that happened others fortunately did
    Earlier speeches before the March.
    https://www.facebook.com/tinalouiseu...type=2&theater


    Speeches at the Rally from RT start roughly 1-24-20 in.Outside the Gates To Hell.
    https://www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/vi...type=2&theater


    Earthquakes around the British Isles in the last 50 days Not nice at all to see Blackpool heading the list
    5 now.No matter what magnitude we know who is to blame.And one underneath a holiday park.
    http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/ear...Ws7ZIgq1ovbU18

    Phew,onwards,dogs to walk around the park now.Then back to making the Driftwood Christmas Trees,time is tightening for sure.
    Back to my normal life,for now that is.
    Take care out there in webland.
    Bye for now
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    That's very interesting about the rally spirit, possibly the same as the Remain rally in London with 700,000 people.


    This was in the Guardian yesterday about earthquakes, it seems scary to me.


    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-in-lancashire


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    Angry Lancashire resident confronts Claire Perry MP energy minister.
    https://www.facebook.com/gayzer.tarj...type=2&theater

    What is the Medact report he is talking about.
    Shale Gas Production in England – an updated public health assessment
    https://www.medact.org/2016/resource...on-in-england/

    What government told the shale gas industry about success, regulation, jobs and support
    Several shale gas wells in production would be seen as success by the government, according to recently released notes of a round-table meeting between the energy minister and the industry.

    Once the first well was in production, the notes said, the government believed “we will be in a better position”.

    And according to the notes, ministers intended to streamline regulation for shale gas and create a “UK model” for shale extraction that can be exported around the world.

    The meeting, called by Claire Perry, was at lunchtime on 21 May 2018. Later that day, the minister gave evidence to a committee of MPs on proposed changes to the planning rules for shale gas developments. Four days earlier, these changes had been announced in Written Ministerial Statements. They proposed treating non-fracking shale gas proposals as permitted development, avoiding the need for planning applications, and classifying major shale gas production schemes as nationally-significant infrastructure projects (NSIP), to be decided by a Secretary of State.
    Much more on the link from Drill or Drop.
    https://drillordrop.com/2018/10/22/w...4GAc_q0JOcezU8

    Jeremy Corbyn-Today.
    A Labour government will ban fracking immediately.
    https://www.facebook.com/JeremyCorby...eremy%20corbyn

    So hard to keep up with things across the country.But two videos.Contains language at times which happens when people feel threatened.
    People are stressed and distressed.WHO WANTS TO WAKE UP IN A earthquake risk zone,would you.
    Losing sleep and wondering what if.
    Unfortunately a protector has been inured and taken to hospital today.
    1-
    https://www.facebook.com/tinalouiseu...type=2&theater
    2-
    https://www.facebook.com/tinalouiseu...type=2&theater

    People are watching this from across the world.Reflects well on the Government.
    Gone Tawnyowl.


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    Song that tells a story.Manchester Climate Change.Tells the story of when Cuadrilla invaded Lancashire.
    https://www.facebook.com/tinalouiseu...type=2&theater
    Definately gone.
    Good evening,another day down there On The Road To Hell for many,maybe coming your way soon,we will see.
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    I saw that the three had been released. They should never have been jailed in the first place.


    It is my opinion that the judge in that case should have recused himself as he had an interest in the industry that may have skewed his view. An investigation should be performed and the judge reprimanded if it shows that he was biased.
    Judicial office launches investigation into complaint over fracking judge with alleged oil and gas ties
    By Chloe Farand, DeSmog UK
    An investigation has been launched into allegations that the judge who handed three fracking protesters “manifestly excessive” jail sentences has family ties to the oil and gas industry.

    Judge Robert Altham sentenced Simon Blevins, Richard Roberts and Richard Loizou to up to 16 months in prison after they were convicted by a jury of causing a public nuisance offence. The protesters had their jail sentences quashed in an appeal case last week.

    Under the Judicial Code of Conduct, judges are expected to disclose personal relationships, social contacts and activities that could cause a bias or a conflict of interest and which put their impartiality into question.
    https://drillordrop.com/2018/10/22/g...-and-gas-ties/

    From the Drill or Drop Report earlier
    Success
    The previous release of the meeting notes redacted, in the public interest, this section of notes from Claire Perry’s presentation:

    “Hoping that we can be successful and create a ‘UK model’ for Shale extraction which can be exported around the world”.

    It also redacted the following question and answer:

    Question: “What does the Minister see as ‘success’?

    Answer: “Several wells in production; adequate support from government, industry and regulators resulting in confirmation that the system is working; working in partnership to make the case for Shale Gas and have line of sight to commerciality”.

    What really are the they dreaming about.
    I was told i am a bit of a dreamer but they make my dreams pale into significance.
    Like they are all on a hallergunic drug.Hyper Dreaming of something that will not happen.
    Dinosaurs of yesteryear.
    Trillions are being moved away from Fossil Fuels by wise ones now.
    It will not be long before the poor investors in A J Lucas and the rest catch on.I feel a little sorry for them being asked for tens of millions to pour down the Well To Hell.As do Centrica and the rest.But that is i suppose the money you pay British Gas.

    And then the dream will be over for shale in the UK.
    As said though keep one eye on Ineos,they will not give up lightly.
    Plastic producers bar none,failure will cost them so much.They no doubt will fight to the finish.
    Just as the investment in the Yacht by Ineos what was it,80 million or so sailing on a sea of plastic and pollution.
    I must admit when they go for respectability in the public's eye they do it big time.

    So what is their dream that will not happen.But is being worked on furiously throughout parts of Europe.Cracker Plants and the rest,gambling.
    Wondering what drugs they must be on.The dream will turn into a nightmare for them.That is money,something they understand but unfortunately some seem to have plenty of.

    So i am trying to look at the bigger picture.
    As the Frackers try to get moving by any means possible what is their end game,their goal for England.
    The pressure is on,we know for some it is not just about the gas.
    Reading this article perhaps may make some think what is really going down.Once it starts who will be able to keep up regulation etc,it would be massive.
    And for the Frackers it has to happen soon.

    As Industry Pushes Billion-Dollar Fracked Petrochemical Projects, State Regulators Struggle To Keep Up
    Fueled by fracking in the region, petrochemical and plastics projects in the Ohio River Valley are attracting tens of billions of dollars in investment,
    but as plans for this build-out hit the drawing boards, signs already are emerging that state regulators are unprepared for this next wave of industrialization.
    “We could really be in trouble,” Dr. Sandra Steingrabber, ecologist and anti-fracking organizer, told DeSmog.
    “It’s not about energy independence, it’s about making more junk that nobody needs.”
    And the implications of their inexperience could mean major threats to the region's health and environment.
    https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/07/0...mical-projects

    This is what living in Fracking Zone feels like.And could as i say head your way soon.
    The council said no,just as yours may.But you ill be overruled and it hurts.
    Democracy smashed to pieces and that will cause trouble.

    Sleep interruptions,i started writing this at 3-30am.
    And i will not be the only on across the world worrying at this moment.
    Stressed,distressed knowing the harm that may be caused to people and the environment.The Oceans,Rivers,Streams,Pon ds.
    The tremors,Earthquakes,invis ible pollution that will damage the health of generations to come,Waiting.
    People are moving their children from a local school such is their concern.
    Research and observations from across the world prove my points.
    Check yourself.
    I only have words,imagine what it is like for those at the roadside in a small hut and on the protector camps tonight in tents keeping watch as they do.At the Cuadrilla Fracking Site right now.

    Gone,coffee time,blowing hard outside,North Westerly,cold direction,winter will arrive shortly.
    Bye for now.
    Tawnyowl.


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    Nothing beats writing something then realising the link did not work,i do it all the time.But usually come back and correct things.
    Lets try again.

    So i am trying to look at the bigger picture.
    As the Frackers try to get moving by any means possible what is their end game,their goal for England.
    The pressure is on,we know for some it is not just about the gas.
    Reading this article perhaps may make some think what is really going down.Once it starts who will be able to keep up regulation etc,it would be massive.
    And for the Frackers it has to happen soon.

    As Industry Pushes Billion-Dollar Fracked Petrochemical Projects, State Regulators Struggle To Keep Up
    Fueled by fracking in the region, petrochemical and plastics projects in the Ohio River Valley are attracting tens of billions of dollars in investment,
    but as plans for this build-out hit the drawing boards, signs already are emerging that state regulators are unprepared for this next wave of industrialization.
    “We could really be in trouble,” Dr. Sandra Steingrabber, ecologist and anti-fracking organizer, told DeSmog.
    “It’s not about energy independence, it’s about making more junk that nobody needs.”
    And the implications of their inexperience could mean major threats to the region's health and environment.
    As Industry Pushes Billion-Dollar Fracked Petrochemical Projects, State Regulators Struggle To Keep Up
    https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/07/0...mical-projects

    I must visit the protector camps,write a few things.
    See if they need food,wood for warmth,mobile for live feeds.
    And put links on seeing if we can donateicon something.
    I mean many of us believe in their quest but cannot be there.
    A few pounds would help them for sure.I will go there,before winter bites
    Bye again.
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    Posted on 22nd October 2018 by Professor David Smythe

    Cuadrilla finally started fracking of the UK’s first horizontal shale well, Preston New Road-1z, Lancashire, on 16 October 2018. Very small tremors were immediately registered on the monitoring network set up by the BGS. I have positioned the five tremors of 18-20 October on the map below, shown by the red crosses. They lie towards the western end of the horizontal segment of PNR-1z at 2240 m depth (the surface track of which is shown by the red line). Fracking started with the stages furthest from the wellhead, that is, at the west end. The BGS hypocentral depths are very approximate (2 to 3 km depth), and the epicentral positions all lie within 300 m of the well track.
    http://www.davidsmythe.org/frackland...F3ex1-bglTkYSU

    Can we trust Cuadrilla’s E-Portal?
    BY REFRACKTION · PUBLISHED OCTOBER 22, 2018 · UPDATED OCTOBER 22, 2018

    After last week’s seismic events a lot of attention focussed on Cuadrilla’s e-portal and the decision they took not to show what they call “trailing events” (i.e. events which occur outside of the times they are actually pumping fluid) with a magnitude less than 0.5. This of course means that their graphs in the “Seismicity in Local Magnitude” tab don’t need to show it as “The Local Magnitude (ML) graph refers to the magnitude of any seismicity detected above 0ML whilst we undertake hydraulic fracturing operations at Preston New Road.” which with casuistry worthy of a 17th century Jesuit priest they narrowly interpret as whilst actually pumping.

    If you look at that tab today (Monday 22 October) you would never know the seismic events of last week occurred at all (unless of course you read the national and local press).
    http://www.refracktion.com/index.php...x-pUcP19zQZ0do


    Fast track fracking proposals undermine democracy and bypass scrutiny, MPs told
    BY RUTH HAYHURST ON OCTOBER 23, 2018
    Government proposals designed to speed-up fracking decisions are unclear, inappropriate and unjustified, a group of planning experts have said.

    They told a meeting at Westminster the ideas, which could allow some shale gas sites to avoid the planning system, would undermine local democracy and bypass necessary scrutiny. The proposals could also increase development pressure on the countryside and increase opposition to the industry.

    The proposals, being consulted on until Thursday (25 October 2018), were announced in May in written ministerial statements.
    https://drillordrop.com/2018/10/23/f...4uNT5W4EM67xzs

    Fracking Used to Inject Nuclear Waste Underground for Decades
    Unearthed articles from the 1960s detail how nuclear waste was buried beneath the Earth’s surface by Halliburton & Co. for decades as a means of disposing the by-products of post-World War II atomic energy production.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/shock-...ecades/5435114

    From the Cuadrilla Fracking site earlier
    .Amazing how many times the protectors have been blamed for stopping the flow of traffic.Well time to put things straight. Cuadrillas Private army.
    Have you ever wondered where the orders come from.All the way up the chain of command to where.
    Must be difficult for many of the police following these orders.But a job is a job i suppose even if you are being used.
    Who is sat at the top writing the orders.Somewhere in Westminster perhaps.Who knows,i do not.
    https://www.facebook.com/tinalouiseu...type=2&theater

    Going now,back tomorrow morning unless something happens which it usually does.
    Bye Tawnyowl.


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    Well what can i say,nothing really i am a little roused this evening so will let a chap called Derek and Tina Rothery say it.
    We should not be put in this position by these cowboys Cuadrilla.If they increase the pressure, they are only playing at the moment,enough said for now.
    Blackpool,Lancashire said no for good reason as have many others.

    Tina Rothery.
    And AGAIN!! A .4 earthquake at 14:45 Blackpool..

    *the 6th seismic event since fracking started here last week.
    Derek.
    Now Cuadrilla are in a severe quandary ....
    To continue risks a larger ' industry wrecking event' , like Preese Hall 2.0.
    To stop admits that they couldn't see the fault before they started fracking .
    Its lose, lose, but too often the experts have tried to mention the risks and safeguards #StylesReport
    {1)Best Available Microfault Surveys 2) 850m setback from identified faults 3) TLS as a backstop, not a daily probe into the unknown!}

    Six induced seismic events have happened in as many days at PNR!
    This is the result of drilling blind to microfaults, industry arrogance, and lack of proper planning consideration !
    If Permitted Development were to be allowed, with the present planning avoidance of seismic risk, there would be no way for the public to stop these tremors before they happen.

    Cuadrilla are now at the point of abandoning their first horizontal frack due to induced seismicity in an unidentified microfault. As they rise the fluid pressure they induce seismicity and tremors, therefore it is likley they are fracking a significant microfault

    Yet it was only a week ago that we were told by Claire Perry , Natascha Engel and UKOOG that earthquakes are a non issue .
    The lies and bluster jeopardise us all.
    http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/ear...uk_events.html

    I look forward to a good nights sleep tonight but doubt it.
    Bye Tawnyowl.



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