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Last post for today.

Parliament Square live now as people gather from the actions that have taken place today.

Just the start they are saying.

 

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Meanwhile in Blackpool as the Strictly Dancing Crew comes to town for tonight's show across the road from the Blackpool Tower on the comedy carpet at the moment it is

Strictly No Fracking time.

Photos.

 

 

Enough for the day,preparation time for Strictly, time for relaxation.Now where are my dancing shoes etc :lol:

Bye for now.

Tawnyowl,over and out.

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Oh,go on then one more post.

As the crowds gather to enter the Blackpool Tower Ballroom for tonight's Strictly as you can see, the action at the moment is across the road.

Ladies and Gentlemen the party has already begun.

The Strictly No Fracking Dancers live a moment ago from Blackpool Promenade for one night only.:-)

 

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I will bring the news about Fracking upto date soon,just popping back to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_Rebellion.

Today other actions may happen so i am just learning a little more about this group of people who seem so concerned about Climate Change.

And seem to believe the time for marching is over as it achieves nothing,no one seems to listen.Governments not just in the UK but worldwide.And time is running out,urgent action is needed to change things.

 

Has this group the energy to last is a good question.But seems to be spreading to other parts of the world.

And all seem to be willing to risk arrest for their direct actions.

If anything happens today i will bring the news here.

 

Extinction Rebellion: From the UK to Ghana and the US, Climate Activists Take Civil Disobedience World-Wide

More than 100 people were arrested during a week of action across the UK as protesters demanded the government treat the threats posed by climate change as a crisis and take drastic steps to cut emissions to net zero by 2025.

 

Thousands of people joined a mass protest that blocked roads and bridges in central London, with some gluing themselves to government buildings to draw attention to what they see as climate breakdown.

 

This was the birth of Extinction Rebellion, a movement that calls for mass economic disruption using non-violent direct action and civil disobedience to halt the destruction of the planet and its wildlife and prevent catastrophic climate change.

 

Around the world, environmental campaign groups and activists watched the action unfold. In London, there is a growing hope that this could be the start to a new form of international mobilisation for climate action.

https://www.desmog.co.uk/2018/11/20/extinction-rebellion-uk-ghana-and-us-climate-activists-take-civil-disobedience-world-wide?fbclid=IwAR1cCStbhms9BW_dq24Bv7Lbw1AIyeqm-7KibtAzEuO86VrnHLo6KEE7FKo

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The day starts.

'Swarming' sit-down protests disrupt London traffic

Extinction Rebellion group begins another day of protest by blockading Lambeth Bridge

Climate activists have blocked the southern end of Lambeth Bridge in central London as part of a series of “swarming protests” in the capital on Wednesday.

Cars beeped their horns and one driver got out to remonstrate with police accompanying protesters. Officers told him to be patient.

"I don't care about the environment," says one angry man as he tells off #ExtinctionRebellion protesters blocking the street at Lambeth Bridge

Video on the article.

Question what about other cities across the UK today we will have to see what happens as the day goes on.

'Swarming' sit-down protests disrupt London traffic

Extinction Rebellion group begins another day of protest by blockading Lambeth Bridge

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/21/swarming-sit-down-protests-aim-to-disrupt-london-traffic?fbclid=IwAR0y0vf43WamIe3dXsWab3-8VhQIyVtuJz2-oKFiEz2j9R2apiVWdaxhKQ8

 

Photo-London.

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Government spending foreign aid money to promote fracking in China

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fracking-china-foreign-aid-shale-gas-climate-change-environment-dfid-funding-promoting-a8637601.html

 

This includes two schemes aiming to “export the UK’s expertise in shale gas regulation” to China,

 

So UK foreign aid money is being spent in the second richest nation in the world to fund fracking while British citizens go to food banks.

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Latest London-Tower Bridge and other parts of London.

Swarming roadblocks with the #XRSnowflakes - economic disruption to hit the government where it hurts: the wallet. Sorry for the delay, we'll be moving on to the next road soon.

Love and rage all around.

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London Victoria Live at the moment-Extinction Rebellion.

Seem to block the road for five minutes or so causing disruption then let the traffic flow again.

Then block again.More people every day getting the message about Climate Change.

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In the fiscal year ended March 31 2017, the OWA had 1,391 wells on its list designated for abandonment, up from 768 a year earlier. As of July 6, the list had climbed to 1,438.

 

Where some see only a jumble of rusted pipes and black tanks jutting from a weed-infested yard in a prairie grain field, Tyler Visscher sees opportunity.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-man-aims-to-build-company-by-adopting-orphaned-oil-gas-wells/article36093754/

 

"The crash in commodity prices of the past three years has been linked to a dramatic increase in orphans – oil and gas wells assigned to the OWA because there's no owner financially able to seal the wells, remove equipment and restore the land when their productive life ends."

 

"Recently, many wells, pipelines and facilities have been deemed orphans because their owners have gone bankrupt, despite the fact that they are still capable of producing, transporting or processing oil or gas," said AER spokesman Ryan Bartlett."

 

 

 

 

New UK gas power station 'would breach climate commitments'

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/11/drax-uk-gas-power-station-environmental-objection-climate

 

"The intervention is the first by the lawyers against a gas project in the UK. Sam Hunter Jones, a lawyer at the group, said it had acted because the Drax scheme marked a tipping point in the amount of new gas planned by energy firms in the UK."

 

 

 

 

 

UK's backup power subsidies are illegal, European court rules

 

 

"The scheme subsidises owners of coal, gas and other power stations"

 

"The government said it was disappointed by the judgment but insisted that power supplies were not at risk."

 

 

and before anyone squeals 'darn interfering EU'

This case with the ECJ was raised by the UK's Sarah Bell and Tempus Energy - an Energy company started with wealthy private investers to 'promote' their own 'disruptive' (cut you off) energy metering systems running their energy business on what seems to be a model of a financial system risk/futures market (her background).

They have since withdrawn from the energy market 'despite' the success of their case.

 

https://theenergyst.com/tempus-wins-european-court-case-capacity-market-bias-towards-generation-dsr/

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Do you think the frackers have gone quiet to give May time and silence to get the 'treat fracking sites as a small conservatory under planning rules' changes through Tawny?

 

Avoid more Earthquakes raising more objections - until its too late and 'done now'?

 

Its spreading

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/sheffield-politicians-attack-plans-for-absurd-fracking-planning-loophole-1-9462753

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https://drillordrop.com/2018/11/29/court-challenge-to-cuadrillas-fracking-site-permit/

 

The following is worth a quick read (or even longer) to get informed while we wait on friends of the Earths court case

Seems very informed and knowledgeable.

 

https://drillordrop.com/2018/11/17/guest-post-the-changing-picture-of-geology-beneath-cuadrillas-fracking-site/

 

Note the differences between the understanding of the actual geology and how it has changed - compared to quadrilla's completely misleading poster.

 

 

"We know that a fault slipped at Preese Hall and caused deformation to the well. Professor Richard Davies, of Newcastle University and the Research in Fracking in Europe project, has raised concerns that these PNR wells are drilled through a fault, and that “if it slipped there will be a well integrity issue”.

 

 

We know that the EA analysis of the flowback fluid from the Preese Hall well showed that it contained a wide range of salts, heavy metals, low level radiation, all of which came from the shale. Some of these substances were at many times the concentrations found in the drinking quality water that was used to frack.

 

We also know that Cuadrilla’s former Technical Director Andrew Quarles said in 2015:

“We have been estimating we will get back 40% of flowback. There are lots of theories. No-one knows exactly what is going on or where the water goes or where the final resting place is.The water could go into the fractures created by fracking or it could be absorbed into the shale formation”

 

 

The following also seems very important

 

"Cuadrilla’s 3D seismic survey was due to be released under the terms of their licences (for PEDL 165, EXL 269), in January 2018, but Cuadrilla asked the industry regulator, the Oil & Gas Authority to withhold it.

 

 

If the data had been released in January 2018, independent scientists would have had time to assess these interpretations and raise any concerns about, for example, the position of faults relative to the wells or the location of British Geological Survey (BGS) groundwater monitoring stations relative to the faults.

 

 

To the best of my knowledge, neither Liverpool University, which has been working on triggers of induced seismicity, nor the Durham/Newcastle and ReFINE geoscientists working with Professor Davies, have seen the data. When last I asked, the BGS had not seen the data either, and of the three regulators, only the OGA has had access."

 

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Hope Tawny is OK and just on a well deserved break

 

 

As 4.5 Earthquakes hit British Columbia 'likely' caused by fracking

https://globalnews.ca/news/4717828/british-columbia-earthquakes-fracking/

 

"Earthquakes Canada reported a 4.5 magnitude quake just before 5:30 p.m. Thursday that was felt in Fort St. John, Taylor, Chetwynd and Dawson Creek in the province’s northeast. A second quake rattled the region about 45 minutes later and measured 4.0."

 

"The most recent study found there were 231 seismic events caused by oil and gas operations in the Montney Trend, a natural gas reserve in northeast B.C., between August 2013 and October 2014."

 

 

 

Ineos threatens National Trust with court action for refusing access to NT Areas of Natural Beauty

 

Ineos, owned by the UK’s richest man Jim Ratcliffe, has argued it had a “legal obligation to investigate shale gas deposits in areas around the country”.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/b376e8dc-ecc0-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57

 

"Earlier this year Ineos said it would take the National Trust to the court over its refusal to grant access to land in Clumber Park, Nottinghamshire."

 

"Even if Mr Storey wins a legal battle he cannot stop horizontal fracking under his land — with the same risk of subsequent water pollution from an abandoned well — if a neighbour strikes a deal."

 

"[uKOOG] still haven’t been able to assuage our perfectly reasonable concern about residual liability for any well on our land once the licence has expired and the well is no longer in use " said Mr Storey.

 

"In March, (Storey) wrote to ministers inviting the government to stand as insurer of last resort. “If the government is so convinced that they have gold standard regulations and this is a safe process, then why is it the government is not standing in as the insurer of last resort in perpetuity?”"

 

 

 

 

while Fracking Slump Deepens as Schlumberger Walks Oil `Tightrope'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-04/schlumberger-delivers-lump-of-coal-with-year-end-frack-forecast

 

"Schlumberger Ltd. expects sales in the U.S. and Canada to drop (*a further) 15 percent in the final three months of the year compared with the third quarter, "

 

"“This is just the latest in a series of downward revisions by Schlumberger"

"the weakness in fracking demand “is already widely known,” Tommy Moll, an analyst at Stephens Inc., wrote in a note to clients."

 

"Shares fell 4.7 percent in New York to $44.12, the lowest closing price 9 1/2 years."

"West Texas Intermediate, the U.S. crude benchmark, has fallen about 30 percent since early October"

 

 

While Barclays, 'the Dirty Bank', "customers 'to leave en masse' over tar sands investment "

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/05/barclays-customers-threaten-leave-en-masse-tar-sands-investment-greenpeace

 

"Thousands of Barclays customers have threatened to switch to another bank unless it ends investment in pipelines for oil from tar sands, dubbed the “dirtiest fuel on the planet”."

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-46526608

 

Very cheeky to say it's no worse than dropping a melon!!!

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Very cheeky to say it's no worse than dropping a melon!!!

 

They undoubtedly meant dropping a melon on you from 2KM (the depth of the drilling)

 

'Cath Middleton, who lives 1.6 miles from the site, said her house shook and she heard a "very loud bang".'

 

Yep, that sounds about right for a VERY firm melon dropped from about 2KM and/or propelled by a high pressure jet of obnoxious poisonous chemicals at your house ...

... and missing you by not very much...

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In 2008 a 5.2 quake hit Market Rasen in Lincolnshire. I lived nearly 70 miles away and it woke me up so the distance would have decreased the strength of the quake. I could drop a water melon at home and all I would feel is wet feet. Nothing would fall off the wall or shake the floor. A 1.5 quake would be felt locally and Quadrilla trying to minimise the effect is tatamount to sticking fingers in their ears and humming to themselves.

 

Ignoring the problem can only make the problem worse in the future. As far as I know, there were no quakes around the PNR site before fracking started. How many over the red light system since?

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Not sure how many, but we should all remember that 1.0 increase in the level is roughly 32 times as powerful a quake.

 

The increase is logarithmic not linear.

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and speaking of wasted money that could go on clean energy infrastructure

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/15/crossrail-billions-north-south-divide-hs2-rail

 

For the London rail tunnel:

"Crossrail this year has demanded an extra £2.3bn on a price tag of some £15bn, with no known completion date."

 

"Worse is happening at its sister project HS2, whose £56bn budget – up from an original £34bn – has gripped its backers in mendacity for five years or more.

Leaks from all over are now predicting it will cost from £80bn (the Treasury) to more than £100bn, with no realistic completion date."

 

 

"Unlike Crossrail, HS2 is not too late to cancel. Ministers pledged to parliament it would not cost a penny over £56bn. Small wonder they sat for two years on a report by accountants PwC warning the figure was rubbish."

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Not all politicians are all bad

 

 

Local councils heading for fracking showdown with government

 

Greater Manchester tells (fracking) firms they are not welcome as discontent spreads

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/04/greater-manchester-tells-fracking-firms-they-are-not-welcome

 

"Several other authorities – including Leeds, Wakefield, Hull and York – have expressed opposition to fracking, and experts believe the stance taken by Manchester and London will embolden others."

 

"Many Conservatives are also opposed. In Westminster, almost two dozen Tory MPs are reported to be against fracking and willing to “destroy the government’s majority” if it tries to weaken planning laws."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/info/2015/dec/08/daily-email-uk

 

"Several Tory-run local authorities – including Derby, Dorset and Nottinghamshire – are fiercely opposed to the change in planning proposals, which would mean companies could drill test sites without applying for planning permission."

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Greater Manchester is to ban fracking across all 10 of its local councils.

 

Planning rules to be detailed next week will contain a presumption against allowing the controversial method for extracting gas.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/fracking-to-be-banned-in-greater-manchester-11599276

 

"Greater Manchester's mayor and former Labour MP, Andy Burnham, is supporting a ban"

 

 

London has similar plans

https://inews.co.uk/news/future-of-uk-fracking-in-doubt-as-councils-ban-shale-and-price-of-gas-falls/

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They undoubtedly meant dropping a melon on you from 2KM (the depth of the drilling)

 

'Cath Middleton, who lives 1.6 miles from the site, said her house shook and she heard a "very loud bang".'

 

Yep, that sounds about right for a VERY firm melon dropped from about 2KM and/or propelled by a high pressure jet of obnoxious poisonous chemicals at your house ...

... and missing you by not very much...

 

This is the usual problem of reporters trying to equate a force, area or event to somehting you might be familiar with. The standard comparison for a magnitude 1 seismic event is a 16 stone man falling down a 10 foot flight of stairs, there is no BGS standard comparitor involving a melon.

Would you hear or feel a magnitiude 1.1 event? would you notice a pallet falling off a lorry at 1.5 miles away?

the last noticeable seismic event was at Kettering in Nov last year and that was a mag 2 at great depth and no-one noticed a thing. I have felt earth tremors of around mag 3 and the market rasen one was widely felt in the UK as were the 3 in Anglsey in the early 1970's. there are several fault lines running under Wales and the Irish sea that have been moving since the Carboniferous period so people should use a proper perspective on this activity. As for a lack of activity before all this started, well no-one can say as they didnt have the monitoring equipment to tell them. There are more seismometers around Blackpool than the rest of the counrty put together and so far nothing unexpected has shown up and nothing over 2.2 nor within 250m of the drilling itself.

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As for a lack of activity before all this started, well no-one can say as they didnt have the monitoring equipment to tell them.

 

There are more seismometers around Blackpool than the rest of the counrty put together and so far nothing unexpected has shown up

 

 

Of course the BGS monitored seismic activity, and drilling a couple of klicks into fault layers laced with heavy metals should be monitored more closely.

 

 

Nothing unexpected? Tell that to the agreed seismic limits.

 

Nothing within 250 meters - the drilling would actually drown out minor quakes close to the site, and the lorries are probably causing as much damage to local house foundations

- not that that means the quakes aren't causing accumulated damage locally and further afield.

 

... and anyway I for one don't give the slightest crap if the site vanishes into a fracture - poetic justice in my eyes

- its just the innocents, aquifers, wells and foundations for miles around that I'm concerned over, and the threat of literally thousands more fracking sites multiplying the risk

 

Just take a look at those pictures I posted from the country of the experts in fracking,

then spend a few months relatively gently banging your head against your living room wall for just a few minutes a couple of times a day, say about the force of heading a football.

Nothing that would equate to anything like hours of continuous drilling and pressure 'chemical washing'

 

Come back in August if theres been no perceptible damage to wall, plaster or head.

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

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From the Power industry

 

https://www.power-technology.com/features/does-the-uk-really-need-fracked-gas/

 

 

"Proponents of fracking in the UK argue the controversial gas extraction method can boost the UK’s energy security and reduce its reliance on imports. Critics, however, claim fracking is unnecessary, dangerous and contradictory to the government’s climate change targets. So, who is right? Heidi Vella investigates."

 

 

 

 

"Overall, in its licence area in Northwest England, Cuadrilla believes there is 200 trillion cubic feet of gas trapped in the shale rock.

However, Marshall points out that local geology is far more fault ridden in the wells and the reservoirs making extraction far harder.

“It has to be drilled into many more times, whereas in the US you can reach much more from one drilling hole, so it is much more expensive here,” he says."

 

 

" Dr Jonathan Marshall, head of analysis at the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit, argues that spikes in demand can be managed in other ways;

rather than addressing the UK’s over-reliance on gas, building a new industry around it reinforces the problem."

You know what IS patriotic?

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The Tory Legacy

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the deepest well in the UK is 398m deep the aquifers we use are typically only 50m to say 200m so drilling to 2.5km and setting off a seismic event that is the equivalent of a stick of dynamite a mile away wont have any effect upon either. Now TJ raises an important point about lorries, there is a better correlation between the siting of B&Q stores and seismic activity then there is with the current drilling work. have a look at the seismic data for the last dacade and he will see that is true. However, like the first forays into epidemiology and investigating wells that held the typhus bugs you may well reach the wrong conclusion if you start off with the wrong hypothesis.

TJ will also be aware form this 3rd year rock mechanics that the energy of even the lorries dont affect the foundations of buildings because they will be well within the elastic limits of the material, even fairly loose soil. Lorries rumbling past very old buildings that have no foundations may well be affected but that will be down to pore water pressure rather than the actual compression/relaxation of the soil and so a very local phenomenon.

I wouildnt blame a tent blowing away on global warming.

Now what about heavy metal contamination? There are no heavy metals used in the mixture pumped into the ground and the much loved by the anti frackers study i read about contamination of wells near to fracking sites in the US was terribly flawed as far as quality control of the data obtained. For example, no before and after analysis of the water, no unform method of abstraction etc. Just taking water into random containers from a tap isnt the way to go. The Undergraduate who published that paper got a considerable telling off for that error. Read Mike Thompsons book on geochemical analysis and quality control to see what I mean.

If you look at the New Red Sandstone that forms the aquifer that gives Nottingham its water, the rain that is now sitting in the botton of the many wells there fell over 5000 years ago and that is a particularly quick flow rate so the American student wont be measuring anyth ing from the time the drilling occurred where he did his sampling but what was there in the stone age. Also look at the work that Iain Thornton, Mike Thompson and the rest of the AGRG did on leaching of heavy metals as part of the geochemical survey of the entire UK. Roman lead smelting pollution leaching was only measurable at 1m depth in the largest identified areas of their activity in Wales, that gives a flow rate of 500mm per 1000 years

Also the drilling companies arent stupid, they want to capture the gas released so the wells will be lined with concrete and steel to render them impermeable to gas, let alone water. similar methods have been used in the North Sea for decades and the north east coast hasnt suffered from endless tsunamis and nor has the midlands of Scotland suffered from earthquakes due to coal gasification there for the past 130 years.

Earthquake in Anchorage caused by fracking? Possibly but it is also the site of 2 of the worlds most powerful earthquakes and they were caused by tectonic plates grinding along, as were all of the mountains. Hong Kao also wrote that the increased seismic activity there is a result of ther induced fracturing and that is not the same as fracking being the cause. If you have a failed rock then any activity will be likely to casue further movement and that can include water percolating down a fault so he isnt actually saying cause and effect but a liklihood of an increase compared to other activity but this has been conflated into proof by others with a dog in that particular fight.

As for Cath Middleton hearing and feeling anything, well that is unlikely to be associated with the seismic activity but never let the truth stand in the way of a good story. presumably she was quoted because no-one else had anything to say. heard a loud bang from something that doesnt make a bang? Exacty what time did this occur as if she is more than a second out on her observations then they cant really be related. Felt her house shake? again that verges on the impossible as the shock wave reaching her house will have less energy transferred than a balloon popping 3m away.

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