I think you should tell her that in the circumstances you are preparing to report the matter to the SPCA and also you would like information relating to her VAT status and tax status and that if she refuses to disclose any of this to you that you will be raising this matter with the court as well.

I think that you should provide her with a copy of the vets report – if you haven't already done so and tell her that you want her reply within seven days or else you will start the action.

Frankly, I don't reckon it's worth bluffing and if she doesn't respond then I would start the action – but that's up to you.

You may decide to write the whole thing off and just leave it there.

It would be helpful if you could upload the vets report here in PDF format please so that other people can see and also it may assist other people who stumble across this thread if they suddenly find that their thinking of buying one of the remaining two kittens that this woman still has for sale.

Actually, it looks to me as if they getting ready to sell up and go - http://www.s1homes.com/Houses-for-sale/2015070906012237.shtml

Whoops - I posted conflicting advice to Andy. Heed Andy rather than me on this.

In that case - just get a move on and sue without any further notice. If you issue tomorrow, she will be served by Monday.

okay I will get on it first thing in the morning thank you all

andy whats MCOL?

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome.

I would also advise you take a read of the following thread before submitting your claim.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?437299-Excellent-interactive-guide-to-the-small-claims-process-from-Warrington-Trading-Standards

By the way, take screenshots of the website.

I see that no 54 Fife Street - Catz is in the cat business as well - pet services apparently - whatever that means.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Catz/307004486131828

A cat hotel http://www.catz.epageuk.com/

By the way, take screenshots of the website.

Grabbed a full archive of the website, including all images. Even compressed, it weighs in at a little over 22Meg so I won't attach it to this thread. If the OP needs a copy, just send me a PM (ask for ~/websites/delightpersians.tar.gz) and we can work out a way of getting it across.

I did check with GoogleCache and the Way Back Machine, neither have a worthwhile recent copy stored.

It is the norm for any reputable breeder to organise a period of free insurance when kittens go to new homes - four to six weeks depending on the insurer. A 'breeder' does not have to be a member of any organisation or cat fancy to set this up so if you didn't get it you have definitely been dealing with someone I'd consider a kitten farmer.

Proper breeders breed to further their own lines and generally this means they are hobbyists and not 'breeding to sell'. This means they assess all kittens born with a view to breeding/showing and then advertise/sell to pet homes those which they don't wish to keep. Kittens are therefore a private sale (second hand if you like) and only have to be as described which gives buyers limited protection under consumer law.

Now there are certain standards which have become the norm with pedigree breeders and I don't believe your seller even attempts to reach and therefore cannot hide behind the 'hobbyist' label. I'm a breeder, my blood is boiling at someone like this conning kitten buyers. If you feel it would be useful to your case I'm happy to discuss what you should have got in terms of paperwork etc. as this would give a direct comparison to show this person was no hobbyist.

It is the norm for any reputable breeder to organise a period of free insurance when kittens go to new homes - four to six weeks depending on the insurer. A 'breeder' does not have to be a member of any organisation or cat fancy to set this up so if you didn't get it you have definitely been dealing with someone I'd consider a kitten farmer.

 

 

Proper breeders breed to further their own lines and generally this means they are hobbyists and not 'breeding to sell'. This means they assess all kittens born with a view to breeding/showing and then advertise/sell to pet homes those which they don't wish to keep. Kittens are therefore a private sale (second hand if you like) and only have to be as described which gives buyers limited protection under consumer law.

 

 

Now there are certain standards which have become the norm with pedigree breeders and I don't believe your seller even attempts to reach and therefore cannot hide behind the 'hobbyist' label. I'm a breeder, my blood is boiling at someone like this conning kitten buyers. If you feel it would be useful to your case I'm happy to discuss what you should have got in terms of paperwork etc. as this would give a direct comparison to show this person was no hobbyist.

Thank you, this is very helpful.

It might be very useful if you would be prepared to post up in a new thread guidance for people who are seeking to buy pets of some kind or another.

If you are prepared to do that and also to provide links at various places to official government documents et cetera, we would be pleased to make it a sticky in this forum and also include a reference to it in the next newsletter.

I'm very happy to do so. I didn't go into too much depth at first because I'm very aware I can bore for England on the subject It's not a ten minute job so give me a day or two.

I will provide links where appropriate but not to government documents as such things don't exist outside welfare legislation. There is limited control over the breeding of dogs but not cats.

New Sticky......

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?457969-A-breeder-s-guide-to-buying-a-kitten(12-Viewing)-nbsp

Many thanks hightail

Regards

Andy

Chinnygirl - the SSPCA would like to speak to you about this and they would like to see the vet's report. You can call them on 0300 099 9999