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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
    • So what    Why ? Consent Order/ Confidentiality ? This would be be invaluable to followers of your topic.  
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My complaint sat with FOS for 2 years. The issue was false accounting by barclays who failed to credit my mortgage with several thousand pounds in overpayments. Adjudicator was inept and useless. Failed to understand facts and simply relayed whatever barclays told him back to me- eventually it went to an ombudswoman who also failed to get her head around things.

 

Barclays consistently refused to provide answers and she got worn down so simply told me the bank had corrected my account and then closed the case.

 

I had no idea how [edited] this organisation is so i believed her. Once the case was closed, it emerged there were NO corrections made and FOS refuses to revisit the case "because it is closed".

 

i got the case files under a subject access request and it shows how month after month they email barclays and the bank simply failed to respond - FOS has no power to do anything.

 

Filed a complaint with the "iNDEpendent Assessor" who sits in the same building as FOS and really is part of FOS, appointed by FOS. But first she fobbed me off 3 times. Now tells me they don't investigate incompetence, just admin failures. OK!

 

Meanwhile my account remains incorrect 2.5 years on and there is nothing i can do about it.

Barclays says "it was dealt with by FOS" and refuses to discuss it.

 

In short - all these establishment organisations are as [edited] as each other, they collude and cover for each other. I should have known better. It is no wonder these banks behave the way they do - they are untouchable and they know it and there is not a thing you can do about it, little consumer.

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FOS are useless. Ignore documentary evidence provided by the consumer and believe everything financial institution says even though they provide no evidence or audit trail.

 

Can't you bring a fresh complaint rather than reopen the old one? If you've got evidence of the over payments and incorrect statements, what about a claim via small claims? How much are we talking about?

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Hi

 

It is not really in dispute - as I have audio recordings of barclays conceding the account remains incorrect 2.5 years on. This individual, whom i believe to be misleading (personal opinion based on evidence gathered) then made numerous contractual agreements with me, but then misled me repeatedly that he had implemented these when he had not. It's the fact they have a staff engaging in misconduct but you cannot report it that gets to me. He is in the complaints dept. So if i complain about his misconduct - it ends up on his desk! He already informed me he is dealing with another of my complaints. Anyhow I am now looking in to handing my evidential pack over to their anti corruption unit- although it has taken forever to actually establish that they have one!

 

I don't want to go via small claims as the fact is, barclays will have expensive barristers to throw at me and they will know all the tactics and legal games to play. Meanwhile - i still cannot make overpayments. That is my priority, i just want a competent manager to deal with the misconduct and correct my account, but apparently that is impossible.

 

I actually tried to post separate threads about this but they keep getting merged.

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I took my complaint to the FOS about my bank Halifax lending me money I cannot pay back.

 

I heavily quoted parts of the lending code which the FOS ignored, quoted that Halifax had breached it own lending criteria, again FOS ignored.

 

The FOS had ignored the fact that I was in financial difficulty bearing in mind I was in an IVA had missed payments on the loan etc etc.

 

They sided with Halifax saying they did nothing wrong even though I am in debt to the tune of nearly £15K.

 

It is just a pity that there is nowhere to turn to to voice the fact the FOS are a complete shambles!!

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People suffering financial hardship become desperate and over extend themselves again. That's why there's guidelines in the Lending Code etcetera about irresponsible lending.

 

that's why I replied as I can comment from a bad experience with a certain bank, in which I nearly lost everything.

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I think the only way you will get resolution now it has been considered by the FOS is via the courts.

 

In a small claims case of £10k or under your exposure to the defendants costs would be minimal unless you litigated unreasonably and wasted court time and costs. The nature of these capped costs mean that they may not be as tough a nut to crack as you think they are, especially if you have the evidence you say you do.

 

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People suffering financial hardship become desperate and over extend themselves again. That's why there's guidelines in the Lending Code etcetera about irresponsible lending.

 

I heavily quoted certain parts of the Lending Code that Halifax had breached and yet the Ombudsman ignored the evidence I had submitted. I even went to lengths of contacting the Lending Standards Board about these issues, I never got a satisfactory response back either.

 

I dont see the point of having a Lending Code if banks breach it and complaints of breaching it are ignored.

 

I am just very angry my bank threw money at me left right and centre, putting me into debt, and then refusing to accept responsibility that they had lent money to someone who is unable to repay it.

 

Halifax are an appalling bank to say the least!!

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you borrowed the money yet you were not in a position to repay it??????

So what? Is this not the standard in the banking industry?

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