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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
    • What you have uploaded is a letter with daft empty threats from third-party paper tigers.  Just ignore it. What we need to see is the original invoice you received last October or November.
    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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About 40 of those 50 points can be attributed to someone who smokes cannabis and is off there head.

 

you dont need to smoke cannabis. All you need is the THC turned into a pill but without the affects of getting high...

 

Strangely enough tho is people who smoke illegally dont want this!!!!

 

Its just a ploy for druggies to get off there t##ts legally.

 

I'm all for research and there I compelling evidence that THC has a lot of medical uses.

 

So put it in a pill form.

 

Why not allow others the right to choose how they take Cannabis ? is it a plant, it grows naturally. Cannabis=zero deaths far safe than most foods we eat. Lets ban eating and take that in pill form to stop all the deaths each year from choking. Your argument has no foundation, have a spliff and chill.

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And I must Sa you've done a wonderful job in just proving one of my statements.

I see the effects of drug use everyday, and whilst on the whole its not a problem, just like alcohol it can be a problem for some. A life changing problem.

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And as for deaths which you say zero, a quick google search reveals hundreds. Here is one.

 

On 30 January 2014, the British tabloid Daily Mail published an article with the following liberally capitalized and attention-grabbing headline: Devout Christian Mother-of-Three, 31, Becomes First Woman in Britain to DIE from Cannabis Poisoning After Smoking a Joint in Bed to Help Her Sleep.

 

Based on the testimony of the pathologist who performed an autopsy on a 31-year-old woman named Gemma Moss, who was found dead next to a half-smoked marijuana joint, the Mail concluded that she “died directly from cannabis poisoning”:

 

 

A young mother of three died after she was poisoned by the cannabis she smoked to help her get to sleep. Gemma Moss, 31, was killed by the level of the drug in her blood, an inquest heard. The regular churchgoer, who was found dead in her bedroom, is thought to be the first woman in Britain known to have died directly from cannabis poisoning.

 

Her death was caused by cannabis toxicity, and a coroner recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse.The inquest was told that Miss Moss smoked half a joint a night to help her sleep

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Here are son negitive points

 

Loss of sense of personal identity

Lowered reaction time

Increased heart rate (risk of heart attack)

Increased risk of stroke

Problems with coordination (impairing safe driving or playing sports)

Sexual problems (for males)

Up to seven times more likely to contract sexually transmitted infections

than non-users (for females) 22,32 & 33

 

LONG-TERM EFFECTS

Decline in IQ (up to 8 points if prolonged use started in adolescent age)

Poor school performance and higher chance of dropping out

Impaired thinking and ability to learn and perform complex tasks

Lower life satisfaction

Addiction (about 9% of adults and 17% of people who started smoking as teens)

Potential development of opiate abuse

Relationship problems, intimate partner violence

Antisocial behavior including stealing money or lying

Financial difficulties

Increased welfare dependence

Greater chances of being unemployed or not getting good jobs.33

 

 

Source

https://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

 

Not sure if you aware but the source you cite is proudly sponsored by the Church of Scientology and Scientologists . Are you a Scientologist by chance? they are the masters of fud and you been fooled I am sorry to say.

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Which bit of the coroners report did u miss?

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Her death was caused by cannabis toxicity, and a coroner recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse.

 

From the link you posted that checks facts !

 

 

 

While higher potency of marijuana would change that math a bit, it would not change it enough for that amount of combustion and inhalation to be possible. A 2011 report on drug abuse from the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) states that there had been (at least at that time), zero documented cases of fatal overdoses from cannabis. If cannabis killed Gemma Moss, it would had to have done so through a mechanism other than direct toxicity.
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It just goes to further support the argument of more research into the benefits of THC...

But I'm not having druggies n pot heads all of a sudden claiming illnesses to have a medical cards allowng themselves to get stoned.

 

Put into a form where you dont get high but reap the benefits that are obviously there.

MS sufferers for example

 

The coroner recorded that verdict and it stands.

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It just goes to further support the argument of more research into the benefits of THC...

But I'm not having druggies n pot heads all of a sudden claiming illnesses to have a medical cards allowng themselves to get stoned.

 

Put into a form where you dont get high but reap the benefits that are obviously there.

MS sufferers for example

druggies , pot heads ? your language is insulting to everyone who takes cannabis and generally the position most take when cornered in the debate.

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I have consumed cannabis daily recreationally and for health for 40 years it not only cures most ailments it also prevents them.

 

 

A medicine makes you healthy and happy, Cannabis do both remarkably well !

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Further on in the article you posted it says this,

 

 

In our view, death from direct cannabis toxicity is unlikely, as this event is generally viewed to be medically impossible. The incidence of a heart attack as a contributing factor in the case of death that is not otherwise fully explainable is certainly a possibility, but the notion that smoking half a joint would trigger a fatal heart attack in a person who did not exhibit any existing cardiovascular disease strains credulity. Accordingly, we rank this claim as unproven.
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No you dont, that's the point.

You choose to live in a democracy and that gives you the right to live in another country if you dont like the laws.

 

Yes to research. THC has many benefits but I don't think that I should be allowing druggies n potheads to be inventing illnesses so they can have a medical card like in the USA.

 

Ps I dont care if your offended with the terms druggies and potheads.

Until its made legal ( never happen in the form you want) then that's what they are.

After that ill refer to them as addicts

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Cannabis will be legalised for recreational use in the very near future the dam has been busted.

 

 

The UK is the largest supplier of medicinal cannabis in the world most MPs support the legalisation for recreational use and like all good hypocrites MPs are jumping on the populist bandwagon now the genie is out the bottle.

 

 

The police chief of Durham has said he is not interested people smoking cannabis or growing in own home for personal use.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/24/durham-police-chief-mike-barton-for-legalisation-cannabis-uk

 

 

So like it or not it is coming now real education is getting out.

 

 

The intellectual argument for legalising cannabis was won years ago, and now political argument is won. .

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You fail to see I'm in agreement that THC has many medical benefits

 

 

So if you agree it has medicinal benefits then you should agree I have the right to take it as a preventative medicine rather than waiting for a specific health issue to arise that would not ordinarily arise if I had been taking my medicine.

 

 

Now that does not make sense to me ?

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