so i have had the gas disconnected permanently because the standing charge has got too expensive, i still have a water supply and electricity, how can i make 100 litres of 40 degree hot water in 20 minutes?

i cant change the instant gas water heater thats screwed on the wall to an electric one bcause i dont own the property

I don't know about 40 degrees, but do you have an electric shower ?

My shower is pretty hot if i turn it up

so i have had the gas disconnected permanently because the standing charge has got too expensive, i still have a water supply and electricity, how can i make 100 litres of 40 degree hot water in 20 minutes?

 

i cant change the instant gas water heater thats screwed on the wall to an electric one bcause i dont own the property

Electric shower running into a bath with the plug in.

Topped up with water heated in a kettle or stove-top saucepan? (Caution : scald risk!! Both from moving volumes of hot water, not properly mixing the water in the bath, but also adding too much hot water).

I'm not sure turning the gas off to save on the standing charge is the economy you wanted unless you had a plan, if you still need 100 L of 40 degree C water ......

Bath at a friends? Are there Changing facilities & a shower at work?

How do you think they used to have the old fashioned bath in the tub placed on the floor in houses?

Some great suggests. Get the largest bowl you've got, fill it up with water from the kettle until it's full. A towel and your on your way, it's carried out in hospitals all the time.

Not ideal, but works, tried and tested by nurses throughout the generations.

Also it's eco-friendly. Also you have overestimated the number of litres, the requirement would be 80.

[ee that's nowt, when aa was a lad down 't pit n we shared tin ba" wi' 't neighbours, . . . ]

If "off permanently" means you've had the meter removed, I hope you've had the landlord's permission.

Why did you not simply move to a "no standing charge" supplier? The switch takes just a few minutes.

so i have had the gas disconnected permanently because the standing charge has got too expensive, i still have a water supply and electricity, how can i make 100 litres of 40 degree hot water in 20 minutes?

 

i cant change the instant gas water heater thats screwed on the wall to an electric one bcause i dont own the property

"40 degree hot water". ...........

Trust me on this one. ....... You will come out looking like a "beetroot" !!!! BOILED

Surely a lobster:-)

"40 degree hot water". ...........

 

Trust me on this one. ....... You will come out looking like a "beetroot" !!!! BOILED

Surely a lobster:-)

I have been told by a very well qualified heating and plumbing engineer that your HW supply should be a 60C to

avoid contamination with Legionnaires Disease, this was confirmed by councils EH dept.

I don't know about 40 degrees, but do you have an electric shower ?

 

My shower is pretty hot if i turn it up

i dont have a shower

[ee that's nowt, when aa was a lad down 't pit n we shared tin ba" wi' 't neighbours, . . . ]

 

If "off permanently" means you've had the meter removed, I hope you've had the landlord's permission.

 

Why did you not simply move to a "no standing charge" supplier? The switch takes just a few minutes.

where is there a no standing charge" supplier? i asked most suppliers. they all charge 26p per day whether i use any gas or not, and thats a new thing that started in jan 2014 which is unacceptable bcause its tripled my bill

Some great suggests. Get the largest bowl you've got, fill it up with water from the kettle until it's full. A towel and your on your way, it's carried out in hospitals all the time.

 

Not ideal, but works, tried and tested by nurses throughout the generations.

 

Also it's eco-friendly. Also you have overestimated the number of litres, the requirement would be 80.

a average electric kettle is 2 litres so thats 40 trips from the kitchen to the bathroom

Some of the suppliers offer a 'non standing charge tariff'. Google 'gas non standing charge tariff'.

where is there a no standing charge" supplier? i asked most suppliers

Buy your mate a drink down the pub, I bet he's got a bath with hot water.

Some of the suppliers offer a 'non standing charge tariff'. Google 'gas non standing charge tariff'.

thanks i try ebico

I chose them due to flexible payment choices plus they are non profit making; therefore, one would hope, more likely to treat customers fairly. So far I have no complaints.

But I'm confused - you said your gas is off permanently : doesn't that mean you've already had the meter removed?

I chose them due to flexible payment choices plus they are non profit making; therefore, one would hope, more likely to treat customers fairly. So far I have no complaints.

 

But I'm confused - you said your gas is off permanently : doesn't that mean you've already had the meter removed?

its due to be removed but maybe i'll change supplier

why are ebico non profit making ? until jan 2014 british gas used to take the standing charge only when the gas was being used, so they wouldnt make a profit if no gas was used. ie. if i put 5 pound on the meter it would stay 5 pound without reducing by 26p per day as it does now with most suppliers

Some great suggests. Get the largest bowl you've got, fill it up with water from the kettle until it's full. A towel and your on your way, it's carried out in hospitals all the time.

 

Not ideal, but works, tried and tested by nurses throughout the generations.

 

Also it's eco-friendly. Also you have overestimated the number of litres, the requirement would be 80.

its not possible to use a kettle for 80 liters bcause it takes at least 5 minutes to heat 2 litres so by the time the last 2 litres has heated up the 1st lot of water will have got cold.

I was not suggesting you heat 80 litres using a kettle. I was just stating that to fill a bath 80 litres would be sufficient.

All you need is 2/3 litres in a large bowl, wet the towel and wash yourself.

its not possible to use a kettle for 80 liters bcause it takes at least 5 minutes to heat 2 litres so by the time the last 2 litres has heated up the 1st lot of water will have got cold.

so i have had the gas disconnected permanently because the standing charge has got too expensive, i still have a water supply and electricity, how can i make 100 litres of 40 degree hot water in 20 minutes?

 

i cant change the instant gas water heater thats screwed on the wall to an electric one bcause i dont own the property

In all honesty, this is your own problem.

You seem to be cutting your nose off despite your face.

SURELY, even thinking of boiling 40 kettles to generate 100 lts of water is just pain stupid and costly when you could pay 26PENCE a day saving all the needless hassle.

In all honesty, this is your own problem.

 

You seem to be cutting your nose off despite your face.

 

SURELY, even thinking of boiling 40 kettles to generate 100 lts of water is just pain stupid and costly when you could pay 26PENCE a day saving all the needless hassle.

26p per day is too much compared to what i used to pay from the same supplier. yes i may change supplier.

boiling kettles wasnt my idea

Yes it wasn't your idea. Many ppl have been upset by the charge, so it isn't only "your" problem. You are wrong, though, to say you used to pay a s.c. only when you used gas. There was no s.c. at all.

You asked about ebico's not making a profit. In fact I should have stated that they operate a not-for-profit business model. Hope that's clearer for you. It is explained on their website.

Whether ebico or the other no-s.c. suppliers serve pre-payment meter users I do not know. I hadn't realised this was your situation. No doubt you can check on this for yourself.