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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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Quick question.

 

If you have already had a bad debt (sorry minds gone blank on the word) on your credit file for 5 years on a debit (the 5 years is now over)

and the creditor can't find ur CCA agreement and you moved home.

 

Forgot to inform the creditor and

 

a letter from a different creditor (11of them) turns up on your door step.

 

(10 statements and one letter to say I've failed to inform them).

 

Can they issue a CCJ against my file on the same debt?

 

Also do I have to inform them I now do live at this address.

 

They asked me to contact them without further delay to confirm

 

how I propose to lay off my outstanding balance (like that's going to happen)

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If you dont inform them and they get a ccj then it is much harder to get a set aside because the claom was served at the last known good address.

 

Also cag doesnt condone debt avoidance. Can you give some background on this debt.

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Hi. Some advise please if you can. Long story short.

 

I had a debt with HSBC (2004)

 

I defaulted and had a red tick debt on my account for 5 years (sorry my mind has gone blank and I can't think off the word)

Went to credit collectors.

I was paying monthly.

 

Suddenly out the blue I get a voicemail on phone(2008) from another creditor saying I owe them the debt.

 

I seeked advise on the consumer forum.

 

Wrote a letter to the 'new' debt collector agency asking for my CCA.

They can't find it....

Being getting statements ever since.

 

I moved home earlier this year

advised all my creditors but

forgot about the DLC as I only get a yearly statement.

 

Today I came home to 11 letters from DLC 10 statement pages and

one letter saying I've failed to inform them of my new address.

 

I must confirm this is my new address and

 

how I wish to proceed to pay the balance (yeah right -they can't find my original CCA I'm currently not paying).

 

Do I have to write back to them?

 

If I do does it show that I agree the debt is mine?

 

Can they get a CCJ on my old address on the same debt?

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Hi

not since Jan 2008.

 

When the new company voicemailed me.

as I was not sure who they were and was worried if I start paying them I could then get letters from the other company too.

 

I sent them a letter (after finding the CAG) to ask for my original CCA

and they are still looking for it.

 

I've not paid them anything since.

 

They even tried to send me a standard letter by recorded delivery to get my signature.

 

Luckily I was soon hung over the day the post man came that my BF signed for it.

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Took out loan back in 2001.

Had trouble paying it back.

2004 Defaulted.

Set up a payment agreement which was with a creditor.

Was paying back each month.

 

2008 different creditor calls me out the blue.

Since original debt 2004 I've moved 4 times.

 

Creditors/HSBC

Can't find my original CCA

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Ignore them. It will be sb in a month so theyre doing evertything possible to get you to pay or admit it.

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You arent obliged to tell them that you moved. However as already advised, if they were to obtain a CCJ at the old address, then they would have served the papers correctly and unless you had another good reason for a set aside, incorrect service could not be one of them.

 

Was there any PPI on this loan or maybe charges that could reduce it.

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  • 2 months later...

Long story shorty.

Got into debt, HSBC sold loan to metropolitan I was paying them with out any issues,

suddenly I get a call from hillesden demanding money and my debt is with them.

 

I contacted consumer forum, was advise to get copy of credit agreement gone through all the letters etc..(this was 2009).

Accounts on hold until they find my original copy of credit agreement.

 

My account has since been sold to DLC- mercantile back to DLC-and

 

today back to mercantile who now asked me for to complete a customer affordability statement.

Shall I just sit back and do nothing?

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They did not sell the debt to Metropolitan. Metropolitan are part of the HSBC group - their inhouse collection agents.

 

Have you actually received from Hillsden group a Notice of Assignment ?

 

If there was already an agreement for a reduced payment plan in place with HSBC/Met Collect then Hillsden are obliged to continue with that plan.

 

Have a read of the following.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?840-Stop-your-bank-or-lender-breaching-their-instalment-agreement

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Thanks.

I'm going back 5years now so all I can remember is that they wanted more for my monthly payments.

I started a thread on this site but it be 5 years ago and on an old email address.

 

All I've was receiving from hillesden was a letter to say they are following up my request for original documentation with HSBC, my accounts on hold and further action been suspended in anticipation of receiving the doc required.

 

I Was getting this (or a letter as similar, from February 2009 until nov 2010) then DLC letters March 2011, then hillesden letter may and June 2011.

 

Then DLC sept 2011,

mercantile dec 2011 (settlement letter£694 to pay off £2776 ) DLC March 2012,

DLC statement Acc dec2012, dec 2013,jan 2014, 20 February

14april 14- letter advising my accounts going to mercantile mercantile may 14

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Long story short.

HSBC loan 2001

-went into repayment with debt collector 2005

-get call from a different debt collector collector 2007

- I question the debt and contact CAG

-asked for original application signed by me

- account went to statute barred.

Not heard a thing for around 6 + years.

 

Today letter from Cabot/ruthbridge saying we have not come to a mutual agreement.

Never heard of them in the past.

My account as far as I’m aware is status barred.

Am I right?

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4 threads merged for complete history

 

the debt is now statute barred

 

send then our statute barred letter from the debt collection section of our library

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

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well under the new FCA conc rules they should then crease all comms

if you've not officially written informing them of your correct address then even if its SB theres nothing to stop them getting a CCJ using an old address.

 

the days of ignoring debt and then hoping it gets to SB ended years ago.

unless they are told its statute barred

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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