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    • @jk2054 and @BankFodder - Your feedbacks in posts #199 and #202 have been incorporated into the attached WS. As usual, amends are in blue in this draft. Based on other WS drafts I've seen where the issues in dispute are part of the WS, I built my first draft WS in the same format and hadn't seen it to be an issue before. You will notice that the 'witness statement' has been replaced with 'Claimant's Statement' so that issues in dispute does not need to be on a separate page before the WS. This is especially given the work that has gone in to reduce the size of the WS to 8 pages. Also thanks for the suggestions re: confidentiality - I agree with your views and will stand firm on this if a condition of confidentiality is brought up. I have not been approached by Evri on this forum or by email. I haven't yet had success in paying the hearing fee. I am calling the court as often as I can (during work breaks/lunch etc.) and have sent 2 emails to the court requesting a call back. If i don't have any success by the end of this week, I'll send another email chasing for a call back. @BankFodder - Also attached is an invoice from Packlink which shows that I was charged by Packlink for these services: "drop-off at EVRi - Next day delivery" and "Proof of Delivery". It also has the payer's address and there are "Origin" and "Destination" fields which have the postcode of the sender and the recipient (I have redacted personal details in the attached invoice).  I am already including this in my evidence bundle (without the redaction) but wanted to share this redacted version so that other people can consider this as example in their bundle of Packlink and Evri's contract being instigated by the sender of the parcel who has paid for the service, and further shows that there is information in the invoice to identify that a third party beneficiary (sender / recipient) is present in the contract between Packlink and Evri. If this invoice is no good, then please let me know / delete it from this post. Draft - Witness Statement and Court Bundle redacted.pdf Packlink invoice - REDACTED.pdf
    • It can be frustrating when clients fail to pay for services or products rendered, ignore payment reminders, or claim an inability to pay. How quick do you pass to a Debt Collection Agency like www.corporatedebtrecovery.co.uk 
    • The Court s pretty informal. The Judge [who you call "Judge" rather than Sir or madam] will not be wearing a wig and gown just a suit and it is advisable that you do the same and a tie. Other than that the Judge will do most of the talking .If they haven't received a WS from the scrotes either the case will probably be thrown out straight away. Usually the Judge will ask their lawyer a number of questions then ask for your take on things and then the case will be decided.  UKPC 0 Mystic Bertie 5. Then ask for your expenses time off work [if not being paid by your company while in Court, travelling and parking costs and occasionally they will allow something like 5 hours research at I think £8 per hour. Later celebrate and post us the result and how much fun it was. You will wonder  why you worried about it so much. Next time will be much easier.🙂
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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Hi all. I made a final payment, using my online faster payment service on the 3/05/2014, of the amount outstanding on my Argos card.

 

The payment was due to day the 7/05/2014. I checked my Argos statement online, the amount outstanding is still on my account.

 

I rang them, they said the payment takes five days to reach their account. I stated my bank said "it was in you account within 2 hours" they said yes, but the bank has to them pass it on to us "the store card company", this is why it takes 5 days.

 

I have been told as the payment has not reached them before today 7/05/2014 interest will be charged, is this bollocks:madgrin:, as it sounds it to me?

 

Any thoughts welcomed.

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I think that you need to look at their T&Cs. Does it say that payments must be received within xx days of their statement date?. If it does, then they are right.

However, right or not - how much is the charge? Does it reflect administrative losses?

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Hi BankFooder, it says the payments made direct to them take 48 hours to clear. I have been making payments online for a year now, I assumed it was straight to them, no other reason to think not. The information differentiating regarding payments to "them" and the "bank" are not clear. I did not relies I was paying two different companies. :violin:

 

I will not be notified the amount of any charges until my next statement.:shock:

 

Thanks for your input.

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I'm afraid that I think that you are bound by their 48 hour rule. The best thing now is to look at the level of charges and see if they are worth challenging for their disproportionality

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I'm afraid that I think that you are bound by their 48 hour rule. The best thing now is to look at the level of charges and see if they are worth challenging for their disproportionality

 

Hi. They told me it takes five days for payment to clear on phone today. I paid account off on the 4/05/2014, it was due to be paid off by the 7/05/2014. I checked the website it says it's 48 hrs, so one is saying 48 hrs the other 5 days.

 

I told them I had paid it on the 4/05/2014 and it cleared in their account within 2 hours, they say yes' but their bank has to send it to Argos store card, which takes 5 days. So I'm confused.

 

I'm sorry for not being clear

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