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I received a letter today from Rossendales regarding a £500 debt I owe the legal aid agency.

 

Considering my case was only last week they've been fast off the mark.

 

The case concerned an appeal in Manchester which I was unsuccessful.

 

I live in Scotland.

 

I have two questions:

 

Does the LLA or Rossendales have any authority in imposing this charge as I live in Scotland and we do not have bailiffs?

 

 

If forced to pay what is the minimum I can pay per month?

 

 

I have no intention of sending details of my personal finances to Rossendales.

I have no contacted anyone yet but I am aware not to contact anyone by phone.

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Are they acting in their capacity as "Bailiff" or "Debt Collection Agency" ?

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I received a letter today from Rossendales regarding a £500 debt I owe the legal aid agency. Considering my case was only last week they've been fast off the mark.

 

The case concerned an appeal in Manchester which I was unsuccessful. I live in Scotland.

 

I have two questions:

 

 

  1. Does the LLA or Rossendales have any authority in imposing this charge as I live in Scotland and we do not have bailiffs? - no
  2. If forced to pay what is the minimum I can pay per month?
    I have no intention of sending details of my personal finances to Rossendales. - that's for the procurator fiscal to decide

I have no contacted anyone yet but I am aware not to contact anyone by phone.

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

NEVER EVER pay a DCA a gov't debt

 

in this instance the rossers are act purely as DEBT COLLECTORS

 

and have NO LEGAL POWERS whatsoever.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?421236-Rossendales-DCA-chasing-old-legal-aid-debt&highlight=rossendales

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I hope I've attached this correctly? Sorry for the delay in replying but I've been ill.

 

There seems to be some confusion regarding this bill. I had £500 costs to pay and a further £350 costs as my appeal failed.

 

I contacted the LAA directly informing them I had no intention of dealing with Rossendales and I would only deal with the LAA.

 

The LAA debt department in London replied with the following email

 

"Further to your E-Mail dated **/**/14

 

I write to confirm that we are only dealing one of your cases in Debt Recovery Unit

and that is the certificate of ********** this is the account we have sent the Personal Budget Form to you.

 

With regards to Rossendales

I would suggest that you make contact with them direct as one of your other certificate’s

could have been sent to them which we are not dealing with."

 

This seems bizarre to me as they suggest they have contacted Rossendales for one part of the debt but not the other!!!

 

I suspect Rossendales are dealing with the first case and the LAA the appeal.

However to add further confusion Rossendales state in their letter (attached) the debt in the appeal court was £500 but it was only for £350!

 

Should I ask the LAA in London for a full breakdown of all debt and inform them I will only deal with them?

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yes deal with the LAA only

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I haven't heard any more from Rossendales until

 

yesterday when they called my mobile and I didn't answer.

They didn't leave any voice mail but I Googled their number.

 

They called me last year and I told them I would only deal with the LAA and put the phone down.

The LAA said they wouldn't deal with me and to speak with Rossendales.

So I was left running around in circles.

 

I'm surprised I haven't received any further letters from them,

it's only phone calls but I won't talk to them on the phone as I want everything recorded.

 

Am I taking the appropriate course of action by not taking their calls?

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correct

 

told you it was a load of old fleecing

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks,

 

I'm guessing my name has come back around again for my annual phone call?

 

What's the likely outcome do you reckon?

 

Will they eventually just give up and go away?

 

I'm in Scotland so I think I'm right in saying they can't do much as we don't have bailiffs up here.

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already answered

go read your thread again

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nothing

 

its a bogus debt in the first place..

 

you'd think the LAA

could simply click fingers and have your wages..

...funny they've not done that............

 

urm.........

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Maybe I'm reading this wrong but you're coming across as quite smarmy and I'm just asking a simple question.

 

You may know the answer but I only asked for clarification on this. You said 'bogus debt' but offer no explanation as to why it's a 'bogus debt'.

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not toward you but the fleecing dca.

 

they can do nothing bar keep attempting to spoof you.

 

next will be a letter from one of their sister companies

well simply them in a diff name but same group

in an attempt to make you think its escalating.

 

the bottom line is you never ever pay/communicate nor talk

to a no powers DCA on a govt debt..end of no if's...

 

if the LAA had any legal claim themselves

they wouldn't pussy futt around with a dca

they'd arrest your wages or WHY

 

safe to say sit on your hands.

 

dx

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?421236-Rossendales-DCA-chasing-old-legal-aid-debt-**WON!!**/page2&highlight=legal+aid

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Coincidentally they called me this morning.

 

I have their number on my reject list but they left a message asking to call Rossendales Collect.

Clearly this won't be happening.

 

Now that I've had time to get my thoughts together it's clear what you say must be the case.

 

If they had any power what so ever they'd be hauling me to court.

 

I've offered to pay the LLA direct which they say I cannot do as I'd have to speak to Rossendales which I won't do.

 

So I'll ignore them.

 

Am I correct in saying after 5 years in Scotland the debt is time barred?

 

How do I create paragraphs?

 

Once I send a post the paragraphs disappear.

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How do I create paragraphs? Once I send a post the paragraphs disappear.

 

It may be to do with the settings on your computer or browser.

 

In regard to the issues you have. As dx has said, if the legal aid people wanted to do something, they would have obtained relevant court authority in Scotland and you would be paying it back by now.

 

I am not sure whether legal aid debts are subject to limitations acts. I would be surprised if parliament in their legislation allowed limitation laws to apply to legal aid debts.

 

You don't have to deal with Rossendales, as they are acting as debt collectorsonly. It is up to the legal aid people to take this forward, but given that they have refused payment, it won't help them.

 

Suggest you ignore Rossendales and they will go away.

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I think theres nowt to stop you specifically writing to LAA

 

state clearly that you are willing to pay them directly

if you've done that already

 

end of the matter

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I contacted the LLA in 2014 as I was confused about two separate debts.

 

One was being dealt with Rossendales and the other from the LLA.

 

I've never had any dealings with the courts before so I was confused

but it transpired the LLA debt was a mistake

and was meant for someone else!!!!

How incompetent can they be?

 

I asked the LLA to retrieve the file back from Rossendales as I wouldn't deal with them

and haven't heard back from the LLA only Rossendales whom I'm ignoring.

 

Maybe one day the LLA will retrieve the file back from Rossendales but I certainly won't contact them again.

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I told the LLA I wouldn't deal with Rossendales only them but clearly they have ignored this.

 

 

Every six weeks or so Rossendales bombard me with phone calls which are automatically rejected and go straight to voice mail.

They stop after a few days or so only to start again six weeks later.

 

What surprises me is they have never sent a letter to me since the first one a couple of years back.

Their only point of contact is through my mobile which is ignored.

Anyone with a bit of sense would realise I'm not going to answer my mobile so would send a letter.

 

I'm not complaining but I just think it's strange.

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Told ya

Spoof in the first place

They want to make threats they would never put on paper

To see if you are mug enough to fall for it

 

Ignore

 

Dz

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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