Well, after not hearing a peep from UKPC and all their entourage regarding a 'parking charge notice' from last year, they have woken up again.

I have received a letter from them today after not receiving any of their threatening letters since January this year.

They are wanting £150 of my hard earned cash within 14 days otherwise they will be passing my case to LPC Law.... whoever they are, and they will in turn 'consider' commencing court proceedings against me. They will also request that the court passes judgment for all legal expenses incurred.....!!!

I am assuming I continue to ignore these fools. If it goes to court, I will defend it to the hilt, as I am NOT paying these people one penny of my hard earned cash for parking in a carpark that was free, did not have a ticket machine to display a ticket, and had a time limit of 2 hours, when I only parked there for SIX minutes What do you people think

Thanks for your time.

Lpc law are the company parking eye use.

I've not heard of this letter type before from ukpc.

Does it say letter before action or claim? If so could u post up a copy. If it is an LBA you need to respond. There I'd an excellent thread on mse on how to deal with lbas in the parking board/stickies.

If it isn't then continue to ignore.

Ukpc could be trying their hand but we will see

Have a read of that link here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4754020

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Heres the letter I received from them. Im not sure why its come out so tiny !!

Its states at the top ' Letter before referral for legal action'.

Im not sure why its come out so tiny !!

Here are the full instructions to upload - Upload instructions by DX100uk

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all monetary figures and dates.

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{DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN OR USE SEE THRU TAPE OR LABELS]

DO NOT USE ANY PDF EDITOR TO BLANK STUFF, THAT CAN BE REMOVED

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DO IT IN MSPAINT.EXE or any photo editing program

if you have multiple scans/pics

put them in a word doc FIRST and convert that to PDF

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

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goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites [http://docupub.com/pdfconvert/]

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

i'e Default notice dd-mm-yyyy

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

Stigman

No, thats just a standard love letter from Debt recovery plus

Kirkby, I thought it was another of their 'missing you' letters !!

Im surprised they have started up their chain letters to me after receiving the last one 12 months ago, maybe they are hoping I will be contributing to their Christmas party fund.... I don't think so .

Thanks for all your replies.

I will keep you informed when the next one appears. If they have the nerve to go to court, I will be more than happy to be there. I have all the evidence I need to prove what they are trying to do is totally unlawful and dispicable.

If you do get an LPC letter come back and post it up pls

Will do Kirkby.

Many thanks

Well, after not hearing a peep from UKPC and all their entourage regarding a 'parking charge notice' from last year, they have woken up again.

I have received a letter from them today after not receiving any of their threatening letters since January this year.

They are wanting £150 of my hard earned cash within 14 days otherwise they will be passing my case to LPC Law.... whoever they are, and they will in turn 'consider' commencing court proceedings against me. They will also request that the court passes judgment for all legal expenses incurred.....!!!

I am assuming I continue to ignore these fools. If it goes to court, I will defend it to the hilt, as I am NOT paying these people one penny of my hard earned cash for parking in a carpark that was free, did not have a ticket machine to display a ticket, and had a time limit of 2 hours, when I only parked there for SIX minutes What do you people think

Thanks for your time.

You should not ignore this.

It is not good advice to ignore

They are saying that they will get their lawyers to threaten you next but they dont make clear what capacity LPC are engaged in. I'm sure that this is left deliberately open otherwise why the threat? they could just write a LBA and have done with it. I suspect that a letter from LPC law will say that unless you cough up they will refer it back to UKPC as there is no indication nay firm isnstruction has been given.

However, if this is a new departure does your original demand predate nov 2012 as you just say last year. If pre PoFA then a simple rebuttal letter saying you were not the driver and you cannot help them identify who the driver was as so much time has passed will suffice. You could add that any further correspondence will be construed as harassment.

Hi EB.

The Parking invoice was slapped on the car August 2012.

I am more than happy to go to court to defend the case. I will not pay them one penny for parking in a carpark that was free to everyone, no pay & display for anyone and a 2 hour parking time limit for everyone ( except me, for 6 minutes total time in car park).

Do they really think I would pay them £150 to use a car park for 6 minutes which is free .

I was shopping in the Lidl store car park. I still have the receipt for the time I was in the store which was six minutes. Their 'attendant' was lying in wait obviously waiting to run over and slap their invoice on the car as soon as I left the car.

I took pictures that day of the attendant in his private unmarked car, no uniform on and trying to pretend he was invisible. I challenged him and he said he put the invoice on my car because I had not parking correctly between the white lines!!!

I have since taken pictures of other cars that park in exactly the same place as I did.

I also took pictures of their terms and conditions which are half way up a lampost in the carpark, which can only be read if you park first then look up 15 feet to try to read their notice. There is no warning anywhere as you enter the carpark that there is parking patrol there. I thought they have to have a notice as you enter a car park explaining it is controlled and what happens if you ' break their rules'.

I will fight this tooth and nail if it goes to court and will not be bullied by these people.

If DRP pass it to LPC who are LPC representing? It would be UKPC who need to pass it to LPC. If DRP pass it to LPC on behalf of UKPC then it cuts them out of the food chain. Not a good business plan is it? There again I believe £200/300 is LPC's fee for presenting and representing, to chase a £100 charge £25 court fee £50 solicitors fee, £175 seems a good plan to me!!!!!!

Edit: Just noticed its pre POFA, so they know who the driver is then?

Thanks for the extra info. It is a dead cert that they wont do court as they would lose hands down, even without the extra evidence you posess and the insufficient signage etc. as they are just plain wrong in chasing you as the RK. They are just sending out a letter from another rentathreat in the hope that you might pay up before they consign the entire file to the bin. However, you can take up the matter of them misrepresenting themselves to the DVLA to obtain your details if you want. The DVLA will bury their head in the sand but copy your request and their response to your MP. See Nev Met's writings on the procedures you need to follow to get the correct wording as there are2 types of application for information about who has accessed your details and why.

Hi all,

Went down to the said carpark a couple of days ago, and took some cracking pictures of other cars that were parked where I parked, NO INVOICE SLAPPED ON THEIR CARS. I sat there for 45 minutes to see if anyone appeared to slap an invoice on any of the cars that were 'not parked correctly', but no one was sneaking invoices on any of the vehicles.

I have taken a few pictures of various other things in the car park that will blow them out of the water if it goes to court. so, if they want to do court I am ready and waiting !!

Me too...

Just received my "Letter before referral for legal action" from DRP telling me that UKPC have instructed them to obtain the outstanding balance of £150.

If I don't, DRP will pass my details on to UKPC's solicitor (who is suing me here?).

I have 14 days.

Danial's signature at the bottom of the letter is different from the one I saw on another letter (internet search), but the rest of the text was identical.

A question: I had a quick search to see what the format of a "Letter before referral for legal action" was. Well, it must be a legal document if they are using terms like this. So, the Google search came up with 6 responses: all for people receiving these letters, this month, from Debt Recovery Plus.

So, the question is, what is the legal basis of this letter?

How many of these notes do we think have been sent out for Christmas. Do we think they have chosen this time of the year to scare people into paying??

It's despicable .

My first letter was in March 2012!!!!!!!

Good luck all

Oh... and what happened to Zernith? They were the last people I heard from... end of July 2012!!

The key words here are

Letter before referral for legal action

If it was a letter before action then it would be a little more serious but what they are saying is that they will refer it for 'possible' legal action.

A twist on words but a twist nonetheless

Oh... and what happened to Zernith? They were the last people I heard from... end of July 2012!!

DRP are Zenith! For some reason they believe swapping them between companies has some effect.

the key word is referral. They cant do anything except send out letter to scare you into paying them some money by using misleading phrases. The phrase they use has no meaning

should have said no legal meaning

Great stuff on here ! I have nothing more to add as it's all been covered so far for you, but I am watching and supporting you. I love all these terms in these threatening letters : " May, possible, referral " etc - all meaningless. Having just won against UKPC, I wish you all the success that I had.

Hi All,

I am noticing a change in advice about these letters - namely; don't ignore them? Now, given that my first chain letter from these thieves was back in March 2012 and that the last one I received (before their recent attempt this Christmas) was July 2012, do I need to look into this POPLA thing (which I am not too sure how it fits into the scheme of things and who actually manages it)?

As it stands, I have only received the latest DRP letter threatening, possibly, maybe, sending my details to LPC Law

As an extra bit of info; I arrived at the parking space at 4.30 on a Friday with very few cars in the car park (large retail park), desperate for a wee after a 40 mile drive, and by 11 mins into my stay, I had a ticket. The only thing I did "wrong" was not to put a ticket on my car. It is 2 hours free parking!!!! I have Google latitude evidence of me arriving (and driving around the car park looking for the car park attendant!!).

Thanks

P.S. Does anybody else find it interesting that they have chosen the name LPC given that most results from Google searches will come up with Legal Practice Courses

No, pre POPLA so no recourse to them available. Pre nov 2012 the parking co can only claim against the driver of the vehicle and it is up to them to identify that person, you dont have to help them in any way. After this amount of time no-one is expected (not in parking tribunals or courts anyway) to remember who was driving at the time so it wont be going anywhere. They are just hoping that you are daft enough to pay up because they have asked you to and written a scary letter with a letterhead that may mislead you into thinking that there was something legit about their sordid business.

 

 

P.S. Does anybody else find it interesting that they have chosen the name LPC given that most results from Google searches will come up with Legal Practice Courses

Rent a brief outfit, one recently turned up to represent "Parkingeye" but thought he was representing "Private eye" needless to say he lost! They are probably using LPC law as a lever because if questioned they could always say well if we did issue a claim we would have used them, seeing they simply provide a mouth at court rather then deal with the whole matter!

http://www.lpc-law.co.uk/