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Hi,

 

I dropped out of university, due to illness, and the uni agreed that if I did not return I would be charged pro-rata and thus wouldnt have to pay any more cash as I had paid up to my date of withdrawal from the course.

 

The Uni also agreed if I wanted to return to Uni this year to re-sit the course as I had mitigating circumstances, that I could also be allowed on the condition that I paid the outstanding uni fees to top up what I had already paid for the full year's fees.

 

I am contemplating whether to go back next year, to sit the full year again for £1400 (Total price for course is £5.4k) or drop out completely and save the £1400.

 

I have now received a Debt recover letter (attached) and hoping Caggers can advise as to what my next move should be?

 

Any advise much appreciated.

 

Kind Regards

 

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thats a std threat-o-gram

nothing to be worried about safe to ignore them.

 

they dont own the debt so cando nowt

 

DCA are NOT BAILIFFS

and as such have NOLEGAL POWERS

 

a quick call o te uni wil sort ot i'm sure

 

whatever you do

 

do NOT respond to the fleecing DCA

 

dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ha ha, you have to laugh at their attempts to make themselves sound serious, "Very important" indeed.....:lol:

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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ahhh they just rang my phone and I answered once I found out who it was I swiftly cut the call.

 

I have now written a letter to the University explaining my situation and hope that should clear things up!

 

Any advice what to do if they call back again?

 

Regards

 

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nothing

 

wind them up if you want too.

 

you dont have to answer their questions

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi dx100uk,

 

many thanks for your advice. I have now written to the university and am awaiting their response.

 

In the meantime I am still getting calls from Unknown numbers (STA)

and now they have got hold of my email

I received this today:

We are a debt collecting agency working on behalf of our client the University Of xxx. We have been instructed to collect the above outstanding amount and we have sent you letters to this effect.

 

To avoid any further costs or legal action you must contact us immediately on 0044 (0) 844 324 0607 quoting your pre-legal reference xxx. Alternatively you can respond to this email.

 

We await your urgent correspondence.

 

 

Email from

 

STA International

 

could you advise on this, I assume ignore it and wait for a response from the university

 

many thanks

 

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yes

just remember DCA's ARE NOT BAILIFFS

they have NO SUCH LEGAL POWERS

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for your responses!

 

You don't think its worth sending them a copy of the letter I sent to the Uni?

 

What happens if the matter is escalated by STA? can they then get legal. I suppose it is the uni whom would escalate the matter anyhow. And I am hopeing the uni will be understanding towards my situation.

 

Many thanks

 

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only the owner can do court

sit tight

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi guys, had a similar issue. Just been sent a letter from STA debt collections saying that I owe the university £285. I only ever attended the university for an open day and never went back.

 

Letter goes along the line of if you have any issues call this number and quote this reference number, followed by threats of taking me to county court.

 

Is this likely to be the same as the issues above?

 

Thanks

 

Tom

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yes ignore

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just proves what kind of money grabbers are in charge of Universities these days.

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Hi there,

 

In the end I wrote to the uni to let them know I have been having mental health issues over the past two years and have every intention of paying.

 

A month later I received a letter from solicitors (acting on the uni's behalf) saying court action is imminent.

 

I got in touch with the uni, dean, head of finance to see why they had gone ahead and instructed solicitors?

 

I find it disgusting that even after having put the Uni on notice that I was suffering mental issues they go ahead and escalate the matter....they have no sense of social responsibility whatsoever.

 

This is even more pertinent with the wave of students committing suicide over unpaid university fees, my university was condemning the aggressive use of debt collectors and then does exactly the same themselves...absolutely appalling.

 

We have agreed that I will set up a direct debit over 48 months with no interest.

 

I have a good mind not to pay them a penny for their sheer cheek and wickedness however I must as court action is the last thing I need after everything I have been through.

 

hope to hear any views on the matter from Caggers

 

BRIGADIER2JCS said:
Just proves what kind of money grabbers are in charge of Universities these days.

 

You are absolutety right here....they will do anything to get their hands on monies owing and will use aggressive tactics and court action if necessary...I have found out the hard way

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/suicide-rates-rise-as-debt-and-cuts-take-their-toll-2308885.html

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sri but I think that's a bad decision

 

do you REALY think the uni would want the appalling publicity if they DID take you to court??

 

NO!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes.

 

not sure if this is relevant to your situation but..

 

did you watch martin lewis earlier this week on tv?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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goto itv player and watch it

 

might help

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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not sure

might help

obv we don't know your situation as such

 

but you never know.

 

just musing

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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that's what I understood too

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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