I received a summons from these what ever you want to call them .

Saying on so and so date no TV licence was in force from XX date to XX date.

Also there was a statement by a officer which i had signed.

However the statement stated that i had a certain tv and i had also a certain sattelite system etc.

However the signature was mine but somehow the statement did not make sense.

I went to court with a no guilty plea.

At the hearing a trial date was set.

I then told the magistrates i would like the officer who interviewed me to be present at the trial so that i can ask him some questions.

to this the prosecutor jumped and asked why.

None of your business i said. Just some simple questions.

What simple questions he asked ?

Any way the magistrates agreed and i also asked for £200 in costs for the trial if i were to prove my innocence.

Now some 3 weeks later i have received a letter from the above saying the summons is being withdrawn.

I dont have a problem with this but i would urge anybody who goes to court because of these numpties to ask for the interviewing officer to be present at the trial hearing.

To be on the safe side prepare some questions and be prepared.

In the worst case there will be a hearing and the interviewing person present.

However more than likely they will pull the summons before the trial date.

I will scan up a copy of the letter from them.

Just havent got a scanner at the moment.

Don't you just love it when a smartarse get the smile wiped of his face.

Just waiting for a scanner and will upload the letter. Also will be attending the hearing to get my costs order.

This is proof [ as if it were needed] that you don`t have any contact with TVL / Capita salesmen. Never ever answer questions, don`t sign anything, ask them politely to leave & if they don`t , call the police. These people have no powers, none, absolutely toothless. They rely on you to hang yourself, tell them nothing, the only thing to give them is the sound of the door being slammed shut.

There is a private members bill being presented to try & give the TVL / Capita salesmen a lot more power. Here is a PDF of the bill.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2013-2014/0047/140047.pdf

This is the letter i recieved from Tv licensing.

This is proof [ as if it were needed] that you don`t have any contact with TVL / Capita salesmen. Never ever answer questions, don`t sign anything, ask them politely to leave & if they don`t , call the police. These people have no powers, none, absolutely toothless. They rely on you to hang yourself, tell them nothing, the only thing to give them is the sound of the door being slammed shut.

 

There is a private members bill being presented to try & give the TVL / Capita salesmen a lot more power. Here is a PDF of the bill.

 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2013-2014/0047/140047.pdf

Not sure if I am reading it correctly, but does the bill indicate that you can be prosecuted just for owning a TV even if the TV is only used to watch videos and cannot receive live transmissions?

This is the letter i recieved from Tv licensing.

Can you please convert your letter to a pdf - it is a bit teeny at the moment

 

Dx100 – Instructions on uploading pdfs

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remove all personal info including barcodes etc. using paint

but leave all figures and dates.

Go to one of the many free online pdf converter websites

convert the image to pdf format.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

open a new message box here

hit go advanced below the message box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

NB: you can set where it goes in the post by hitting insert inline.

Then hit reply button

 

These people started ringing our number 2 days after expiry of licence, this is pathetic and 3 more times I know of since including last saturday.

Not sure if I am reading it correctly, but does the bill indicate that you can be prosecuted just for owning a TV even if the TV is only used to watch videos and cannot receive live transmissions?

It is proposing that any device capable of receiving live broadcasts should comes under a fixed penalty scheme. More men in yellow jackets issuing fixed penalty charges if you don`t confirm your status.If your property shows it is not licenced or you refuse to give out your identity or your live TV receiving status, or refuse to communicate with BBC/TVL/Capita, then the bill wants to give the power to issue charges/ fines on the spot, regardless of any proof . You will have no right to privacy or non communication, it will assume you are guilty if you don`t comply. The chances of the bill being passed are very slim indeed but it will be a door wedge to further bills of this nature. The BBC desperately need a tax on the internet , it is being left behind in its ability to compete with Sky,Virgin, & now BT. It needs to ring fence the tax for its very survival, seriously bad times ahead for the Beeb, output is poor at best, it can not compete financially for TV rights to major sporting events & it has spread its self far to thin in trying to be all things to all people, add to that the crazy pay off's & wages to the old boys network, failed IT systems [ 100 million lost] then you can see it does not look good . The next blow will be when a case is brought against them in the courts over ex & current employees involved in sex crimes.

It would be interesting to see how many genuinely don't need a license versus those who do but don't pay and should be prosecuted. If that bill does get passed then at least it will stop people who do need a license using their 'rights' to hide behind and get them to pay like the rest of us. I know it will impinge on the privacy of those who don't need a license, but I feel that it's a case of the minority ruining it for the majority of genuine none payers.

One issue overlooked is if you are working and suddenly end up on benefits, is the TV licence a priority debt?

One issue overlooked is if you are working and suddenly end up on benefits, is the TV licence a priority debt?

Not for me, I have decided I have other things my money is needed for so no more live TV, so long rubbish mass entertainment

This is proof [ as if it were needed] that you don`t have any contact with TVL / Capita salesmen. Never ever answer questions, don`t sign anything, ask them politely to leave & if they don`t , call the police. These people have no powers, none, absolutely toothless. They rely on you to hang yourself, tell them nothing, the only thing to give them is the sound of the door being slammed shut.

 

There is a private members bill being presented to try & give the TVL / Capita salesmen a lot more power. Here is a PDF of the bill.

 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2013-2014/0047/140047.pdf

Just read thag on the link and its absolutly disgusting! In a nut shell just by having a tv you can be proscuted, they would have powers to remove your tv and effectivly hold it hostage until you pay the BBC the fee, and is opening a door to let the bBc set the fine rate if you caught.

Basically letting then charge what they like and your also guilty and charged if you refuse to probide your name

Etc.

but how on earth can the prosecute without your name?

This bill is obsurd! How desparate are these idiots, why cant they just make it subscription based and leave people alone rather then forcing people to pay for a serice they genuinely may not want!! Arrhh rage!! Sorry lol but its rediculous. !

Just read thag on the link and its absolutly disgusting! In a nut shell just by having a tv you can be proscuted, they would have powers to remove your tv and effectivly hold it hostage until you pay the BBC the fee, and is opening a door to let the bBc set the fine rate if you caught.

Basically letting then charge what they like and your also guilty and charged if you refuse to probide your name

Etc.

but how on earth can the prosecute without your name?

 

This bill is obsurd! How desparate are these idiots, why cant they just make it subscription based and leave people alone rather then forcing people to pay for a serice they genuinely may not want!! Arrhh rage!! Sorry lol but its rediculous. !

Take a deep breath:wink:. This bill will not be passed, as i outlined before, it is a door wedge , an opening shot, they are testing the waters to see if there is an appetite for this kind of approach. It dosen`t have the legal legs or the backing of the lords, contrary to stupid statements , you can`t hide behind a legal right. They [ BBC] have come under serious fire after yesterdays meeting before the board of governors, trying to explain the grotesque & obscene pay off's, some 25 million paid to managers who we`re no longer needed or sacked, on every payment the BBC voluntarily increased the final pay off figure, the old boys network is still alive within the walls of the BBC. I was listening to Nick Ferrari [LBC presenter] this morning who had a guest on who worked for the Beeb at a very high level for 20 yrs, he said it should be split up & considerably downsized,also it is now time for it too find its own funding via subscription & / or advertising.

A staggering fact came to light. The BBC employs twice as many people as the Royal navy, it has more managers than the entire football leagues put together. The recent move to new premises has been an abject failure, they have already out grown the space , they are now renting back the buildings they once owned because they have out grown a building they designed & had a hand in all the specifications , you simply could not make this up, no one would believe you. Now i ask you , why do people pay them money ?. Go legally licence free & if you really can`t do without your soap / reality / chefs dancing on ice...... watch them on catch up. Stop funding this madness.

remined me of the 50/60s for every man in the field there were 5 office people to back each man up/

That bill is poppycock LOL

It would never get around the Human Rights Acts.

I may even send it to my MEP in Brussels to let them know just how the BBC and this useless self serving government plan to run their 'dictatorship'

We haven't had much from Europe but the ECHR is a mighty sword to wield for the average person in the street.

Do u require a tv license if u have a tv that you have in storage on behalf of someone else..

Do u require a tv license if u have a tv that you have in storage on behalf of someone else..

No! You only need a license to use a tv for the reception of 'live' transmissions. Not for storage, or to sit there as an ornament or to use only watch pre-recorded dvd/tapes or as a computer monitor. The latter only if you are again, not receiving live broadcasts via the internet.

There is a huge move to tv internet streaming and catch up tv via boxes so the BBC and licensing people will lose a fortune if everyone knows they dont need a licence if they only use these facilities. That is why the beeb and their acolytes want this new law, they want to continue to waste your billions on retirement funds for failed managers and people you wouldnt leave your children with. Buffering make an internet broadcast outside the live bit as it is not a transmission cos the data is collected and resent in packets.

I don't think you are quite right there. If you are watching Wednesdays episode of Coronation St on a pc at the same time that it is being broadcast even if you are a few minutes behind, then you are watching a live broadcast.

Buffering isn't the same as recording.

Before long, a tv license will be required for the use of a washing machine simply because it resembles a tv, and yes the prove in court will be the alleged tv in question contains all the soaps. lol..

Before long, a tv license will be required for the use of a washing machine simply because it resembles a tv, and yes the prove in court will be the alleged tv in question contains all the soaps. lol..

lol - very clever.

Before long, a tv license will be required for the use of a washing machine simply because it resembles a tv, and yes the prove in court will be the alleged tv in question contains all the soaps. lol..

Same old repeat programe!

There are ways of course that you can watch tv quite legally without having to buy a license..