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In 1998 I rented a property on a short tenancy of 6 months. I moved out in Jan 1999.

 

I received a letter saying CT was owed and paid it (approx £287) by bank transfer ( I always paid that way).

 

I heard no more until 2007 when they started chasing payment of CT owed

 

I contacted council to find out what was going on as my new property account was up-to date. This is when I found out it was for the old property.

 

Council claim not to receive the bank transfer made in Feb 1999 and proceeded with a liability order and then bailiff to trace me.

 

The CT Bill was for the time I moved in in 1998 till April 1999 (9 months) even though I had moved out in Jan and had paid the full bill till April 1999 by bank transfer.

 

I went to a meeting with council and had my tenancy papers and bank statement showing payment.

 

They agreed to amend the bill to when I moved out. Remove any charges and look into the missing payment.

 

They came back saying its so long ago they cant trace anything or find the payment on their records and I'm liable to pay the arrears as they have a liability order.

 

Nothing more happened until now ... (5 years on)

 

The Council still claim not to have received the payment and are now taking the money they say is owed from my ESA (£5 a week) without any notice or contact with myself.

 

This has meant my ESA that went into my bank was less then I was expecting causing me financial problems. It may only be £10 but that not the point and means my budging is out the window.:mad2::mad2:

 

Any suggestions on what to do next?

 

As far as I can see I overpaid by 3 months (Jan to Mar '99) and now having to pay again...

Citi Cards - £800 - N1 Form logged at court

Defence entered

£279 refuned £521 outstanding on claim

Hearing 15th Nov 2006

Hearing 18th Jan 2007

Defence Stuck out - £549

March 07 Bailiffs called in to collect

20/4 Cheque for £549 - I WIN

 

Abbey - Setteled in full 9th Nov 2006 £3,300

 

Abbey - Data Protetion Act informtion

ICO complaint logged

 

Abbey - N1 Logged - 12/02/2007 £933

FOS Complaint logged 07/03/2007

£180 refunued -Good will Gesture 01/04/2007

Hearing 15th June 2007

 

Capital One Refunded £50

 

Egg - Data Protection Act request

Returned charges £80

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Hi Morsy

 

If the council had a liability Order in place then it will never become Statute Barred, subject to what date the Liability Order is dated.

 

Regards

 

Andy

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So does that mean I have pay them again?

 

What about the original payment?

Citi Cards - £800 - N1 Form logged at court

Defence entered

£279 refuned £521 outstanding on claim

Hearing 15th Nov 2006

Hearing 18th Jan 2007

Defence Stuck out - £549

March 07 Bailiffs called in to collect

20/4 Cheque for £549 - I WIN

 

Abbey - Setteled in full 9th Nov 2006 £3,300

 

Abbey - Data Protetion Act informtion

ICO complaint logged

 

Abbey - N1 Logged - 12/02/2007 £933

FOS Complaint logged 07/03/2007

£180 refunued -Good will Gesture 01/04/2007

Hearing 15th June 2007

 

Capital One Refunded £50

 

Egg - Data Protection Act request

Returned charges £80

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If you have documented proof it was paid then no its their problem, if they can chase a debt that's 13 years old then they must account for payments 13 years ago.

The debt is over 6 years anyway and as such the question of Statue Barred enters the equation, they counter that by saying they have a Liability Order but what date is that order?

If its after 2005/6 then its useless as the debt would be SB anyway, if its dated before the 6 years then why have they left it 6 years to collect?

 

Regards

 

Andy

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No the liability order was obtain in march 1999

Citi Cards - £800 - N1 Form logged at court

Defence entered

£279 refuned £521 outstanding on claim

Hearing 15th Nov 2006

Hearing 18th Jan 2007

Defence Stuck out - £549

March 07 Bailiffs called in to collect

20/4 Cheque for £549 - I WIN

 

Abbey - Setteled in full 9th Nov 2006 £3,300

 

Abbey - Data Protetion Act informtion

ICO complaint logged

 

Abbey - N1 Logged - 12/02/2007 £933

FOS Complaint logged 07/03/2007

£180 refunued -Good will Gesture 01/04/2007

Hearing 15th June 2007

 

Capital One Refunded £50

 

Egg - Data Protection Act request

Returned charges £80

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Ok well the question of SB will never arise, so all you need to do is show proof that you paid it.

 

Regards

 

Andy

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Which I've done and they dispute they revived the payment .... they now demanding full payment which I refused ... so they taking it out of my Employment and Support Allowance ... which I can't stop

Citi Cards - £800 - N1 Form logged at court

Defence entered

£279 refuned £521 outstanding on claim

Hearing 15th Nov 2006

Hearing 18th Jan 2007

Defence Stuck out - £549

March 07 Bailiffs called in to collect

20/4 Cheque for £549 - I WIN

 

Abbey - Setteled in full 9th Nov 2006 £3,300

 

Abbey - Data Protetion Act informtion

ICO complaint logged

 

Abbey - N1 Logged - 12/02/2007 £933

FOS Complaint logged 07/03/2007

£180 refunued -Good will Gesture 01/04/2007

Hearing 15th June 2007

 

Capital One Refunded £50

 

Egg - Data Protection Act request

Returned charges £80

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" They agreed to amend the bill to when I moved out. Remove any charges and look into the missing payment.

 

They came back saying its so long ago they cant trace anything or find the payment on their records and I'm liable to pay the arrears as they have a liability order.

 

Nothing more happened until now ... (5 years on) "

 

If you have the paperwork to prove the transfer and the statements then they must accept payment was made.Request to see the manager you are struggling enough on benefits without them stealing money from those benefits.If you get no joy see your local MP and ask him to take it up with The Secretary of State, Im sure they wont want to take payments from your benefits fraudulently.

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I've spoken to LA they say person who needs to resolve this is away for 2 weeks so they cant do anything until they return. I asked for the supervisor and that is the supervisor so they wont stop deductions from my ESA until they return....

Citi Cards - £800 - N1 Form logged at court

Defence entered

£279 refuned £521 outstanding on claim

Hearing 15th Nov 2006

Hearing 18th Jan 2007

Defence Stuck out - £549

March 07 Bailiffs called in to collect

20/4 Cheque for £549 - I WIN

 

Abbey - Setteled in full 9th Nov 2006 £3,300

 

Abbey - Data Protetion Act informtion

ICO complaint logged

 

Abbey - N1 Logged - 12/02/2007 £933

FOS Complaint logged 07/03/2007

£180 refunued -Good will Gesture 01/04/2007

Hearing 15th June 2007

 

Capital One Refunded £50

 

Egg - Data Protection Act request

Returned charges £80

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Excellent Morsy dont worry it will be back dated credit.

 

Andy

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