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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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  • 7 months later...

Hi, i know it's a long shot seeing that you posted this in Feb, but i gotta try.

 

Have you ever had an answer to your question?

 

I'm in almost the same boat. Been told the other week that my account has been closed, had no letters or anything about it. But they still send me Statements with horrendous amounts of interest and late and overlimit charges on a monthly basis.

I also, on occasions, get sent proper default notices if i haven't been able to afford to pay properly.

 

How can they do this when they closed my account?

 

Please, i would appreciate it if you could let me know if you ever did end up getting advice, as no one seems to be checking in on my thread.

 

Thanks,

Jellybabe

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i stated the £12 because the office of fair trading would not challange a charge under this amount, this does not meen £12 does reflex the true financail loss to certain charges and still can be challanged for fairness. interest must be claimed also at 8%

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Correct, the OFT won't investigate charges over £12 and as you say they can still be challenged for fairness through the courts.

 

If reclaiming on an active/live account then one would normally use the rate of interest equivalent to that being charged on the account to put things back to at least the position they would have been in had the charges not been added in the first place.

 

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I just had a call from creation because I missed a payment and was told if my payment next month was late I would be charged £12.

 

I told the lady that I knew that and that was why they closed my account.

 

I think I will get the account upto date before I reclaim may next lot of charges.

 

Interestingly my latest statement includes a term about missed payments can mean I have broken the terms of the credit agreement

but surely if the account is closed there is no longer any agreement,

 

just a debt to be repaid?

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if the account is closed, they cant add anything

I hope the int is frozen.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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After a long wait after complaining to creation

 

I received a letter saying that the account was closed and they could levy interest and charges

but they would refund some charges and on the statement showing this they added another £12.

 

I told them that the account being close meant no charges as the credit agreement had been terminate.

 

They wrote back and said the account being closed didn't mean the agreement was terminated!

 

So I think a complaint to the Ombudsman is in order?

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  • 6 months later...

Just thought I'd add my bit to all this. For the last 3 or 4 years my car insurance has been finance through Creation, and on the occasions I have missed payments I have been charged £25 admin fee and £3 for payong via debit card.

Now my insurance is due for renewal, and the quotes are now low enough that I can pay the policy in one lump, thus removing Creation from the mix, maybe I should start claiming these charges back. Are the charges for paying via card claimable as well?

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yes

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just in case the OP and any others posting on here have given up on fighting Creation - Don't. It is worth reclaiming all their penalty charges. Go through statements, work out the compound interest owed by C and start the letter process. C don't bother to reply - so you may end up with a quick Judgment against them and £s in your pocket...

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