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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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I want to share my experience and knowledge of brighthouse with the public so people can make an informed choice.

 

Firstly BRIGHTHOUSE used to be know as CRAZY GEORGES, they basically operated a very shady shall we say business, that used questionable methods of dealing with their customers,

SHOULD THEY BE UNABLE TO PAY.

 

When they decided to go mainstream the needed to re brand themselves so they became BRIGHTHOUSE, your friendly weekly payment store (so they advertise).

 

Brighhouse will bleed you dry of every penny you have, they will be ever so friendly when you enter their store, they will encourage you to take out an agreement,,

they will oversell the fact that there are no credit checks, no deposit and their big selling point easy weekly payments.

 

Well lets address each one of these,

firstly they dont do credit checks or ask for deposits because they know there customers are going to have bad credit,

that is who they TARGET, becasue if you have poor credit you have little and no options to go else where.

 

As for easy weekly payments,

they highlight this because it LOOKS so affordable compared to the REALITY of what you actually pay!

Here is an example

PAYMENTS

If you by an acer laptop from them they will highlight the £12.99 weekly payment, for some this will seem affordable and acceptable.

 

Now what they will not mention is how much you actually end up paying, as its not a great sales pitch, the pricing is on the product very small and complicated.

So here is the reality, you will end up paying £1350.96 for a laptop that should only cost around £500! thats £850 over the market value.

How do they do this,

 

well they have an APR of 29.9% as well as forcing you to take out TWO insurances on top of your weekly payment.

Now exactly why they are being allowed to do this when banks are being made to pay back PPI is any ones guess but they can and they do.

 

INSURANCE

You do not have to take out their insurances, you can refuse, but then they will refuse to sell to you simple.

 

They say one insurance is to cover THEIR product from damage, they will sell it to you that should you need a repair you can just call them up and they will fix it, sounds good?

NO, why would you need insurance on a sofa? or a table?

 

The other is to cover your payments and loss theft etc.

They do this so that that you can return the product to them should you no longer be able to pay,

win win for them because they simply sell on the product as refurbished for a fraction less than what they charge new.

But most importantly to the customer should you suffer a theft of your product or accidental damage

(they will demand you bring the product in, they will attempt to fix it or prove it wasn't accidental so you have to keep paying!) you can claim on your insurance,

however all they do is cancel the rest of your payments, no replacement for you as the customer, you pay all that money and insurance and you are left with nothing!

 

They instead will attempt to get you to take out another contract, so say you have been paying for a year, tuff luck you have nothing to show for it.

 

LATE FEES

THIS IS THE REAL DANGER OF BRIGHTHOUSE, this is where they make even more money (greedy, yes they are)

Should you have some financial difficulties and be unable to pay one week they will hit you with late fees,

they set their payment plans from a certain day so say its Wednesday to Wednesday, and if you don't pay till Thursday, your charged £3.50 per item that has gone late.

 

Now many people have a number of items with them, so it can be quite expensive but here is the real problem,

say your weekly payment is £50 and you have 4 items (this is not unrealistic for brighthouse i know of people paying much more as they are not bothered if you can afford your payments)

and you cant pay that week, so you go in the following week to rectify the issue.

 

Well they will want £114, should you not be able to afford this they will be unwilling to take a payment plan, they will not offer you any assistance, they will be hostile and demand payment.

If you cant pay the following week you will owe £178! However they will not allow this to continue for longer than a week or two,

as they will send the boys round with a van, to your home address to demand payment or they will take your goods then and there,

so say its a fridge freezer or an oven and will leave you in dire straights? tuff! and they will simply sell on the product win win for them.

 

 

IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT THEY ARE SIMPLY LEGALISED LOAN SHARKS PRAYING ON THE VULNERABLE, THEIR SHOPS ONLY APPEAR IN POORER TOWN CENTRES AND THERE MAIN CUSTOMERS ARE ON BENEFITS/LOW INCOMES. THEY DO NOT PRACTICE RESPONSIBLE LENDING AND THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THERE CUSTOMERS PLIGHT IN THESE FINANCIAL TIMES.

 

Should you find yourself with brighthouse, do not allow them to get you to take out more than you can realistically afford.

Be aware that legally you do not have to have their insurance you can demand they take it off, however they will be very unwilling to do this.

Should you fall behind with payments, ask them for a REWRITE this is little known, but they do do it, they will rewrite your contract,

and put what you have fallen behind with to the end of your payments leaving you to continue to pay your normal weekly payment.

 

Again they will be very unwilling to do this, you need to give a real good excuse.

 

If they come to your door, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ALLOW THEM IN! yes the law is on their side they are legally allowed to take the goods,

BUT THEY CANNOT FORCE THERE WAY INTO YOUR PROPERTY, THEY NEED A COURT ORDER TO DO THIS, AND GUESS WHO IS VERY UNWILLING TO GO TO COURT?

YES, YOU GUESSED IT, BRIGHT HOUSE, THEY RARELY TAKE ANYONE TO COURT AS THEY KNOW MAGISTRATES WILL SIDE WITH THE CUSTOMER ON MOST OCCASIONS.

 

My advice dont answer the door, they will call round at least once a day, they will ring you all day long, and will be most likely quite aggressive, they will state the law to you,

but it works both ways, be aware of your rights!

 

Seek legal advice from citizens advice or your local law centre, they are well aware of brighthouse and their ways and will assist you in any way they can.

 

ULTIMATELY IF YOU CANT AFFORD THE ITEM AND YOU HAVEN'T HAD IT LONG GIVE IT BACK, YOU PAY THERE INSURANCE SO THAT YOU CAN DO THIS. iF YOUR THINKING OF GOING WITH THEM DONT, YOU ARE BETTER OFF SAVING UP, THEIR COBTRACTS CAN UP TO 2-3YRS!

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