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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
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    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
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I took out a large A&L loan in 2007 to consolidate etc etc etc - you know the story. The application was made via telephone and they sent the forms via post for me to sign, which I did. I have recently CCA'd Santander who took over A&L. and thry have duly sent me a copy of the orginal agreement.

 

The agreement includes amounts for PPI which I had crossed through those and specifically stated on the back of the agreement that i did not wish to purchase PPI. I will scan the Agreement and post it tomorrow for your thoughts. It looks ok to me.

 

My beef with them is that I hit financial probs in 2008 and offered reduced payments which they accepted for a while. I wasthen advised that as i could not afford to pay my arrears they swould be looking for a CCJ to apply a charging order on my property and it was only a formality and not to worry, to keep making reduced payments. I was so naive at tthe time and just went along with it. I had just had a baby and had no idea how to deal with things like this. It was utter madness as our house was (and still is) in negative equity so the order is worth zilch to them.

 

I am continually pursued by Shoosmiths who state they are delaying with the debt. Im just wondering where I stand on this - I know it's a bit of a imppossible question to answer at the moment but I thought it important to get a thread started in the hope that someone has been through a similar thing with A&L or another bank.

 

I will send an SAR to Santander to see if there are any flaws in their processes. I just wonder if its all too late beings as the CCJ has already been awarded.

 

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Just to update this thread. SAR docs were sent to me on 03/11/12. Contained very little info and only related to most recent loan which was taken out in 07. I had several loans with Alliance and Leicester and am certain there would have been PPI on them. Sadly I have no records - DOH!. Santander are saying that they have destoyed all info prior to this. I dont believe this for one minute so failed SAR letter to go tomorrow demanding the info or records of destruction dates, authorisation etc. I will keep you posted as to what comes back (if anything). Id love to hear of anyone in a similar position who has won their PPI claim. I didnt want to just submit a 'just in case' claim. Its far better to have the info to hand .

 

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Hi guys just an update,

 

Ive recd a letter today from Santander stating the historical information can only be retained for legitimate reasons, therefore some personal data may no longer be held as it has been deleted in line with our retention policy. We can however confirm that we have sent you all the personal data that we still hold in relation to the customers account.

 

Im unsure what to do next folks. I had a feeloing they would do this. Should I be SAR'ing Alliance and Leicester maybe as these were who the loans were with?

 

I know I had many labs with A&L and they are bound to have PPI ont hem that I want to claim back

 

thanks

 

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Can anybody advise on this please. Should I send an SAR to A&L for old loans even though Santander had taken over the latest loan. I am pretty certain I had PPI on the old loans but Ive no iodea how I can find out without an SAR,

 

Cheers

 

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Well ive been searching high and low for any kind of references and even resorted to asking my bank for old statements which they duly sent.

 

This paid off and I have at least one ref number for the old A&L loan. Next question is - where the blinking heck do I go from here? I have already SAR'd Santander who only sent the very latest loan details. Should I write back to them 'with reference to my previous SAR request' and give them the account numbers now that i have them?

 

Any advice is really appreciated

 

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