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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Dear All

 

I have just found this forum and I am hoping somebody can help me. I received a Parking Contravention Charge Notice from the NCP on 30 May when I was parked in a railway station car park. The charge was £100 (or £50 if I paid within 14 days).

 

I wrote to the NCP to appeal the decision on the grounds that it was a bank holiday that day and therefore I didn't realise that I had to pay. Furthermore, there was nobody in the ticket booth to ask, and the cars either side of me also did not have tickets which confirmed my assumption.

 

I have received a letter from NCP today (dated 17 June) saying that they have declined my appeal and giving me a further 14 days from the date of the letter to pay the £50, or £100 thereafter and also saying that if that £100 is not paid thereafter, they will follow a recovery process which includes passing the case to a debt collector who will seek to recover the outstnading debt on their behalf and admin costs. It also says that they reserve the right to use the courts ti reciver the charges due to them.

 

Where do I stand? I receive benefits so I don't have this sort of money readily available but also my credit rating is already quite bad and I don't want it to become worse or put a black mark against my name. Equally I do not want to go to court? Are there other options or will I just have to pay?

 

Thank you in advance.

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Just ignore it and don`t even bother to contact them as its a waste of a stamp.

 

Someone may let you know what scary letters from debt collectors and solicitors(so called) that you may get but just ignore it and smile!

 

They are private companies that cannot issue fines only invoices that are not enforceable.

 

If worried then get back on here but DON`T pay them a penny, I would rather you sent it to me!

 

So today you can celebrate the fact that you nearly got "HAD" by con artists and you found this site first!

 

By now you should have a big grin on your face

 

I too was worried about my NCP ticket but know I know and tell all the people I know about it to save them money.

 

(and I took a bit of convincing)!

 

It may follow with scary red ink on paper with scary words but that’s all they are and intended to frighten people into paying towards their big lush houses while we all work hard for a living.

Nast words like debt collector and CCJ and court and Bailiff etc.

It’s just words to scare you into paying.

It is no different to me sending you and invoice in the official looking yellow sticky thing and asking you to pay me £1000 because I don`t like the colour of you shoes!

Would you pay me! That would be nice!

Would I take you to court? Be a bit silly if I tried!

Better to send 10% to this forum for saving you a bomb!

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Ignor everything you are sent regarding this no matter who the letters are from or how scary they are. It's all bluster to scare you into paying. After a few months they will realise they are wasting their time and money and forget about you. FACT!

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Thank you everyone for your replies. I was just worried because I had given them my address and I didn't want it to come back at me on this address or on my credit rating. I won't bother to contact them anymore and I will ignore future letters.

 

Oh and if I could afford it, I would give you lot the £50 for the peace of mind you have given me! :)

 

Thank you, thank you, thank you XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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Don't worry, even if they did decide to take a gamble in court, they would have to prove to a county court judge that your actions cost them the hundred pounds that they are claiming, plus they would have to prove that it isn't a penalty, which it clearly is.

 

If it did go to court and you lost, the most the judge would order you to pay would be the cost of a pay & display ticket for the time you were there, probably no more than a couple of quid. It's not worth their while to pursue these cases all the way, they just send the scary letters out and hope people pay up before they stumble across sites like this.

 

Just ignore them from now on and don't contact them again.

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Hey all

 

I have followed the advice and ignored the letters that I have received so far but now I have had a letter from Newlyn debt collectors saying that I need to pay £142! It is a really scary looking letter - is this something I now need to pay or can I continue to ignore? NCP might not send me to court but will Newlyn? I looked them up online and they look pretty official.

 

Thanks in advance for advice.

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Thanks for the quick response DBC. I have been following the advice from this forum but when I got this letter it has really knocked me sideways. I didn't think they would go to the extreme of instructing debt collectors and I am worried about bailiffs coming to my property.

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A debt collector is a person who writes letters or at worst phones you, they have no power you can simply ignore them,or tell them to go away! Bailiffs can not be sent by anyone except a court. So you wont be seeing them!

 

Newlyn are well known for exaggerating their powers. However they really have none at all!

 

The letters are a normal part of the chain, you may even get a reduced amount offer from them eventually!

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Or make them an offer of £0 or less and tell them to head south past beachy head!

 

Just ignore them and seriously don`t worry about it, laugh at them instead. and tell your friends.

 

I spoke to someone today who alas think they were also conned due to lack of knowledge of this site.

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The DCA letters LOOK scary - until you know how the PPCs operate and that DCAs have no powers at all.

Then to many they probably just look like pathetic begging letters from chancers trying to trick you into parting with your money.

 

Don't get scared, get angry.

Its a while since I posted this link

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/164651-problems-ppcs-face.html?highlight=problems+ppc+face

 

That article probably needs a few more 'problems' adding to it, not least VAT liability.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I've since received another couple of letters from Newlyn which I ignored but today's one says:

 

You are formally advised that unless the payment is received within 14 days, proceedings will be initiated in the County Court where a Judgement may be obtained. The CCJ may then be enforced by a court appointed bailiff which will incur substantial costs....blah blah blah

 

Do you think that I might get a CCJ against my name? It is my understanding that these take 6 years to clear and I'm intending to buy a house next year so I don't want this to affect me. Or is this yet another threat from Newlyn that I should ignore? this has been going on for so many months, I really thought they might have given up by now.

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